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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:20 PM
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Ok I am now convinced, REPUBLICANS wants a revolution
serious.

They are gonna get this if they keep doing this shit. It is not a conscious thing, but if they get one... all those pesky rights due to that pesky Constitution goes away.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:21 PM
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1. Are you listening to Rachel?
Edited on Tue Mar-08-11 09:22 PM by tabatha
This is crap! This is Shock Doctrine in living color!

On edit: I just posted this, when Rachel said Shock Doctrine.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:22 PM
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2. Yep, it is worst than anything Pinochet ever did
and this is speaking volumes.

They will get a hot revolution if they keep this shit up.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:27 PM
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4. You know....
the hard and inspired work of workers throughout this country (the best work force in the world) have made this country "exceptional". But the idealogues want to ride on the back of this work, and take control and line their pockets, and control in an autocratic way to rule the country - much like the Mubaraks, Gaddafis, etc in the world.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:30 PM
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5. I do not buy the excpetionalism
but that is due to my deep study of US history. No, they dont want to take us down the road of Egypt. They are going back to the nexus of US History, and that is cheap labor. Having rights and good pay has made us hard to control and bad for social order... yes Edmund Burke, or for that matter, Milton Friendman could have written that sentence... but having money and time means you got time to think and gee... demand more. The 1950-80 period was an exception in US History, but not one that made us exceptional. We are going back to the main of US history.

Oh and Friedman AND Osama agree on this.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:42 PM
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8. cheap labor = chattel slavery
They're still fighting the civil war, and the civil war was fought over slavery.

Don't let anybody tell you any different.




TG
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:43 PM
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9. and indentured servitude, aka white slavery.
just for completeness. if they can go back THERE, they will.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:36 PM
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21. That is why I had "exceptional" in quotes.
The point is that the right wing hammer on that theme - but they are not responsible for it. I think that less than 10% of scientists are right-wing.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:12 PM
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17. They can control a hot revolution, strange as that sounds
What's been happening with the peaceful but growing demonstrations is scaring the living crap out of them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:54 PM
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24. Yep... fully agreed
and to some political scientists and historians it is starting to look like a modern revolt. <-------

This is not the kind they can control.

But what they want is a HOT, lead flying, kind of a revolt... ammo box and all.

Keep it frosty peeps, keep it frosty.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:35 AM
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39. As woo woo as holding hands, singing and putting daisies in guns,
it's the persistence of ghandi like passive opposition that will take this country to a new and a better place.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:08 AM
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29. When the have-nots see themselves as already dead, they'll get their revolution.
and it'll make Cuba look like a Church Bingo in comparison.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:15 AM
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31. Violence is their game, let's not play it.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:05 AM
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28. umm
Pinochet had dissidents rounded up, put in Santiago stadium and executed.

You really want to claim Republicans have rounded up hundreds of US citizens and tortured and executed them?

I think you're a wee bit overexcited.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:17 AM
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32. I agree, that was taking it too far. But if you read right wing sites
you will read how they want this to happen to the 'commies' and they NEED 'law and order. If there is a large scale massive peaceful protest those calls will get louder. It might not be camps, but it could be live fire on protesters.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:20 AM
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33. Read RIGHT WING sites
the Santiago Stadium and the Guerra Sucia will look like a walk in the part to what these guys want to do.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:24 AM
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36. "want"
I am aware right wing nut cases would like violence and all that. But it doesn't change the fact that as of now, they aren't as bad as Pinochet, let alone worse.

Just because they're hyperbolic doesn't give you license to be hyperbolic and claim it as factual.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:26 AM
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37. Have a good day.
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PowerWisconsin Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:38 PM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:49 PM
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10. Make sure to send this release to both Eddie and Rachel
the only media sure to cover you.

Oh and welcome to DU
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:25 PM
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15. Well I might as well get in a plug for our.........
AFL-CIO rally next Tuesday March 15th at Legislative Plaza here in Nashville between 12 Noon and 1PM. It's a solidarity rally with the TEA and supporting collective bargaining rights in general. If we can get a good turnout here in this deep red state (even though it's a blue dot) on a weekday, it should be more effective. Wish us luck. It will be my third this month.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:36 PM
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20. Wow...Friday, March 11th. Same day as the big demonstration in Saudi Arabia.
The way the Saudis have an army of riot police mobilized, it promises to be violent. Hard to see how it wouldn't be--an authoritarian regime like Saudi Arabia doesn't know how to be anything but heavy-handed. AND it will drive the price of gas up even higher than it is already on an angry, stressed-out and tapped-out American population.

Mubarak resigned on February 11th, the date I picked somewhat arbitrarily as the day of the Great Turning, because 11 is a number with high numerological significance. Don't ask me to explain or defend that because I'm not an expert on numerology. I'm just going by what other people have said.

So now there's going to be a big protest in Saudi Arabia AND in Madison on March 11th. It's even more synchronistic when the number 11 is doubled--usually as 22, but we can read these dates, February 11th and March 11th, as another way of doubling.

I'd better stop now because I'm scaring myself! Only three days to wait to see how it all plays out, though.

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bindelh Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:21 AM
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34. March in Washington DC July 4th 2011
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x590953

Time to let the 'Belt Way" know how we feel about their avarice and greed.

Pass it on to all of the blogs, boards, friends and co-workers.

The moment we stop fighting for each other is the very moment we lose our Humanity.

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:23 PM
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3. k&r...
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:38 PM
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7. I agree, I believe we're headed that way.
The Wall St. criminals just take and take, and they pay NOTHING, I mean fucking NOTHING back into it, and they're spending billions convincing us that it's necessary to get rid of programs that actually, you know, help people (but spending $400 billion on new fighter jets? That's not wasteful - that's vital to our national security!!!). But what they don't get is that we're fighting for what's left of the scraps, and when we don't have that left, we're coming for them.
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bindelh Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:31 AM
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38. Bring your guillotine n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:50 AM
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40. Pitchforks and torches
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:03 PM
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11. Actually, the people running the drive do want an ideological revolution...
Because, for the msot part, they really believe the bullshit the peddle.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:12 PM
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12. Its a very conscious choice. They want to break up the US.
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Mybrokenchains Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:22 PM
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13. What will be the straw that will break the camels back...?
it wont be long, people are coming outta the initial shock of this bumbling republican power play...outrage is building, we are amidst pangs of revolution everyday...
What will it take, for the people to finally rise up and do what must be done?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:25 PM
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16. I hope for the VEIN of US Revolutions,
and like the New Deal I hope it remains MOSTLY peaceful.

Mostly I know they are not romantic, but I fear they want the latter... the violent kind.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:17 PM
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19. VEIN?
What's that? Other than what carries my blood to my typing fingers.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:56 PM
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25. Vein as in a fancy use of a word
vein   
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–noun
1.
one of the system of branching vessels or tubes conveying blood from various parts of the body to the heart.
2.
(loosely) any blood vessel.
3.
one of the riblike thickenings that form the framework of the wing of an insect.
4.
one of the strands or bundles of vascular tissue forming the principal framework of a leaf.
5.
any body or stratum of ore, coal, etc., clearly separated or defined: a rich vein of coal.
6.
a body or mass of igneous rock, deposited mineral, or the like occupying a crevice or fissure in rock; lode.
7.
a natural channel or watercourse beneath the surface of the earth.
8.
the water running through such a channel.
9.
a streak or marking, as of a different shade or color, running through marble, wood, etc.
10.
a condition, mood, or temper: a vein of pessimism.
11.
a tendency, quality, or strain traceable in character, conduct, writing, etc.; manner or style: to write in a poetic vein.

Sorry...
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:48 PM
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22. Of course they want violent revolutions.
That gives them the excuse to be as violent as they really want to be in return. That's why they always plant provocateurs, to guarantee violence when none is forthcoming from the protesters.

I hope revolution can happen with minimal violence, but that pretty much depends on the other side. The U.S. hasn't YET descended to the depths of barbarism of Gaddafi's Libya, where innocent protesters or bystanders are getting shot in the streets. So it's not unrealistic to hope for a peaceful revolution.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:16 PM
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18. In all the years I've been in this gig, all I can say is something is happening here
We put the same non-violent protests together time and again and then for no obvious reason, we get the WTO protest or Cindy Sheehan in Crawford or these many workers protests. Nothing when you start looks any different and then wham, history in the making. If we could bottle that "je ne c'est quoi", then we could get things working better at a faster than glacial speed.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:58 PM
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26. Societies need to be ready for it
all those years, it was getting ready.

May I recommend either Toynbee Study of History, or the very Americanized, and bastardized version called The Fourth Turning?

I could also recommend the Longee Dure, but that is much longer, and the Annale school IS a damn pain.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:25 PM
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14. shock doctrine, chaos capitalism.....
...you betcha.

I always remember that the members of Skull and Bones train themselves in the techniques of manufacturing chaos in order to profit from it.

Never forget that. The philosophy behind it is that of Hegel and Malthus. The manufacture of chaos is deliberate and tactical.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:59 PM
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27. Not Hegel, nor Malhtus
not even marx... all this lay it at the feet of one Milton Friedman.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:49 PM
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hmmm
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:49 PM
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23. Dupe
Edited on Wed Mar-09-11 12:06 AM by AsahinaKimi
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:13 AM
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30. The Left does not leak....it explodes. History has taught us this.
The Right leaks everyday...listen to radio or watch TV. They control the message and it's a non-stop drip...drip...drip of emotional release. The Left has never had this forum to leak. Therefore, you wake up one morning and the Bastille has been stormed. No warning.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:21 AM
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35. Oh there are warnings
just that you have to be very careful to put them together.

The Bastille did not just happen. It has a buildup of 25 years at least


Like the US War of Independence... the foreshadows started in the 1720s.

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