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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:00 AM Original message |
For those who are fine with pirarting music and movies etc |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. joy of creativity, I guess |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. so you and the others think people should create for the joy of it |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. I do, could, and don't |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. I write |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
76. I think you need to re-read your own OP |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. yep. People knit, paint, write poetry, build stuff, write music, for no pay. Part of being human. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
77. No, I think people should get paid. I was just offering a suggestion as to |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. Curiosity, creative impulse, expressiveness, persuasion.... |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. first of all, how do you know those cave people didn't charge |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. You must hate libraries. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Sharing is not the same thing as making copies |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Bittorrent. n/t |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Copying is sharing of the highest sort... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. wanting to make a living is greed? |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Apparently. |
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inademv (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. Digital pirate's honor code |
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ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
69. I Can Tell You This |
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inademv (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. I assume you're talking to people who ONLY pirate media? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. someone patents a drug or invention |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Wait. What? You really have no idea how that whole 'digital copying' thing works, do you? |
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inademv (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Patents and copyright only apply reasonably to distribution |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. Honestly, the best of music, movies and other performing arts come from those who |
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speltwon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That's a specious analogy |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Not specious at all. Your issue is that I RETAIN a copy of the material? |
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speltwon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Those are fine, and in fact in the trade are often referred to as "book loan" copyright |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. True. I have no respect for the property of multi-national billion dollar corporations. |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
59. There are flaws in all of your scenarios. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Not that complicated |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. there's a big difference |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Really? What's the limit of friends that I should be allowed to have? |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. whenyou make it available to more than one person AT A TIME |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
66. are you so sure about that |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. If "loss of revenue" is the determining factor, why isn't my gifting you a book piracy? |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. Stupid argument. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No, not stupid |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Except that musicians DON'T OWN THE COPYRIGHT. The record label does. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And the record labels can go and fuck themselves. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Which is the point... |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I don't think you have any idea how they make their money. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Look, honey, I did my homework probably before you were born |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Plenty of people |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. It is one thing to choose to give your work away for free |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Well, |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
70. You have no idea how the music industry works. None. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. So why was Paul McCartney mad at Michael Jackson? |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Your argument became meaningless to me after you called me "honey." |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I figured it would. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
67. in the case of music, it's ripping off the record company far more than the artist, but if one has |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. I can't love them if I don't know them. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. +1 |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. If I had the dough I'd buy everything. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Skip the CD and go to a live show and buy a t-shirt. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. I try to do just that. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. A lot of people have pirated my film, |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. I'll start selling it under my name then |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That's a whole other can of worms than just duplicating for personal use. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. He knows that very well. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
46. That's not the argument at all. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. it's part of the argument |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. I am a rank amateur making machinima but I love googling myself |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. Musicians generally don't make squat off unit sales - the record label does. |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
64. Quite right! |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
25. Chumps like you paying for it? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. The incentive... |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
39. Possibly for the same reason the Creative Commons copyright is becoming... |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. All creative work is derivative. |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
52. The same one they already have |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. I've was against pirarting long before I was for it...no wait |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
55. For new music I don't mind paying for it on the internet; I think it's the right thing to do. |
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curiousabout... (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
56. They wouldn't. |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
57. Very little. |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
60. i dunno, what's it worth to ya? |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
61. I don't get paid to write stories, or work on game mods |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
62. What Would Radiohead Do? |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
63. Don't need more Jonas Brothers and Justin Beibers of the world! |
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ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
68. You What You Sound Like? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
71. If they only create for money, I'd say they are lame anyway... |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
75. I price my product low enough that it isn't worth copying. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
78. Aaarhh! String the pirartes up from nearest yardaarm! |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
79. Lots and lots of sex. Endless sex. |
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