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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:54 PM
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Mr. President, where are you?
It is well past time for the President of the United States to take a stand. He needs to get off the fence, choose a side (I am no longer convinced he WILL choose OUR side) and take a stand. I think the only thing that stands in between a total corporate takeover and a general nationwide strike, is the President of the United States.

Where in the hell is he?
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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:55 PM
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1. Couldn't Agree With...
you more! The President needs to STAND UP!

(Before it is too late)

-PLA
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:05 PM
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18. I agree too - We have a Dem president for a reason
or do we? I'm beginning to wonder. What we have seen from Obama since getting elected is NOT what I voted for. I don't even recognize him as the same man who campaigned back in 2008. A total letdown when what we really needed was a JFK type - and with sooo much potential after 8 horrible years of Bush. Makes me think Nader was/is right. Sigh.. :(
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:56 PM
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2. and where is the Democratic Party?
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:57 PM
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3. Them too! But the POTUS needs to LEAD. NOW!
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:51 PM
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38. Agree completely
Our party is only as good as our leadership. And our leadership is failing us now!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:16 PM
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47. The Party needs to decide what it is to do
that means all its representatives, elected officials need to march to the same tune.

The Repubs are firing on all cylinders to make Obama the Commie, Muslim but it is backfiring.
The Teabaggers were whining about the deficit and overspending and now what do they do - the people are up in arms about cuts in services.

LOL!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:13 PM
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11. I can almost understand Obama not getting involved (even though he
certainly campaigned that he would).

But I completely agree with you - where are the party members? Their lack of spine is glaring.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:59 PM
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4. Calm! Cool! Collected!
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:04 PM
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5. Wow, exactly.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:05 PM
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6. A message from President Obama

From Twitter...

PressSec: POTUS says we must come together & set aside partisanship to fix our budgets. Actions last night in #Wisconsin violate those principles.



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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:13 PM
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10. Wow, a fucking TWITTER post from the Press secretary. Whoop-de-fucking do!
Please know, I am NOT directing this at YOU.

I am unimpressed with that response. He needs to be on every TV channel speaking about what is going on. He needs to pick a side and take a stand. Now.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:55 PM
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30. +1 nt
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:13 PM
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12. His response to the crisis in Wisconsin is a fricken twitter message from his press secretary?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:14 PM by Cali_Democrat
You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:18 PM
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15. When he doesn't say anything ppl bitch, when he does ppl still bitch.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:21 PM by Tx4obama
No matter what he does it is not going to please folks!

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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:15 PM
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24. You think a twit from a hack is the same as a statement from the president?
really?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:56 PM
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31. yes. nothing is done that isn't his responsibility. yes. yes. yes.
if what comes out of the white house isn't obama's words/responsibility, then why did we all blame bush for everything? Double standard much?
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:07 PM
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19. LAME
wow he had some aide take 2 seconds out of their day to post that. way to go Obama WOO-HOO! now that's solidarity if i've ever seen it!!!1! :sarcasm:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:18 PM
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25. "To fix our budgets" What about JOBS???
You can't "fix our budgets" with a Nation of unemployed people. And whose "actions" is he upset about? Walkers, or the protesters?

TAKE A STAND ALREADY!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:55 PM
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29. so we're reduced to this shit. Wow. what a stand up guy he is.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:26 PM
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44. WOW that means so much
and so much effort went into it. :sarcasm:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:09 PM
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7. Addressing the problem of bullies, while RETHUG bullies destroy
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:10 PM by hlthe2b
the middle class, dismantle the unions, and turn us all into slaves of the plutocracy.

I'm not saying he should go to WI. Frankly I think that would backfire. But, I do think he should be using his bully pulpit and whoever is setting his agenda is totally tone deaf. It is almost laughable. Honestly, I think they would fail to reschedule a meet and greet visit to the local Rotary club for a declaration of war in the Middle East. Staying on message only works when it is the most important issue being addressed. School bullying, however important, is not that issue on this particular moment. It could wait until tomorrow or the net day-- or he could meet his scheduled commitment, but wait for the major PR kickoff. :eyes:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:12 PM
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9. Yes Obama, please DO NOT come to WI because it would become about you.
We have a people's protest and a people's movement here and the last thing we need is for the debate to become about Obama.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:10 PM
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20. Yep, that is what I was trying to say in the OP on the thread below
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:49 PM
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28. Obama coming here would just fire up the right.
I don't want that and neither does anyone here in Wisconsin other than those on the right. Then there would be screaming about "ObamaCare" and states' rights and how he has buried this country deep in debt and the debate about our loss of workers' rights and other issues in that budget bill would be lost in the tumult over other things.

His support from Washington is fine, just don't come here. This is a people's protest, a people's movement, and as you said it is strong because it is from the bottom up and is honest and sincere and this is where the rubber meets the road and we are getting it done.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:20 PM
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26. So are the protests about Michael Moore now?
:eyes:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:41 PM
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27. So, is Michael Moore the President of the United States?
I don't think Michael Moore is any great distraction from what is going on compared to what Obama would be.

I'm from Wisconsin, live and vote here, and have to live with the consequences with what happens. It is my opinion and one I've heard expressed by many others here that the president should stay away. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but in this situation I give more weight to anyone who lives here even if they do not agree with me. It just grates a little when we get people from other states who believe they know best what we should do here.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:42 PM
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40. hmmm, so all of those people in the crowd with "where's Obama"? signs
don't have a say?

I wonder what your position was on Bush's absence from NOLA after Katrina. Easy enough to find out.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:58 PM
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32. Oh come on, everyone knows Moore is a grassroots person, not on the same level of a president. n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:43 PM
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41. Obama was elected by the grassroots
that makes him a "grassroots person", not an Emperor.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:58 PM
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43. +
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:11 PM
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8. Sorry, the dog ate his comfy walking shoes.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:14 PM
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13. I guess so. But he does not need comfy shoes to go on the TV and speak....
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Wisconsin_2_Nation Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:17 PM
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14. Obama is doing the same thing at the federal level
Cutting taxes, blaming the poor and entitlements for the deficit.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:10 PM
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21. +1
if one didn't know any better (and if it wasn't possibly against DU rules) I'd say Obama, by his actions, fits in most accurately with Republican ways of thought, not those of Democrats. If it walks like a duck and acts like a duck...
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:37 PM
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16. According the post below he's running the recall of Wisconsin Republicans.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:01 PM
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17. Bipartisanship lends itself to
silence, political fence straddling and something other than leadership based on moral, ethical or humanitaran principles.

This is yet another example of uninspired and decidedly unimpressive leadership. Actually, I'm not even sure that I consider bipartisianship a form of leadership.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:13 PM
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22. Uh, clean hippie, although I understand your sentiments,
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 04:16 PM by truedelphi
The President has taken a stand.

Most modern day Presidential Adminsitrations accomplish 66% of what they need to do through appointments.

He appointed Geithner to be top man at The US Treasury.

So instead of working as he pledged to us in October of 2008, to see that the financial crowd start having regualtions to adhere to, he gave the Criminal Wall Street Forces one of their own.

If Tim Geithner had not been an official duly appointed to serve as the head of the New York Fed, and had we a government that cared about justice concerning financial firms, taxation, inflation and other economic matters, "lil Timmy" might be in jail now. As head of the NY Fed in the fall of 2008, Geithner orchestrated the tremendous slant that the money dealings needed to keep the money in the hands of AIG and Goldman Sachs.

That appointment of Geithner showed many of us exactrly who the President works for. To paraphrase what Kucinich once said of Paulson, "We know you are working hard, Mr President. We just don't know whom it is that you are working for - it sure doesn't seem like you are working for us."

(And don't even get me started on his Monsanto appointments. His placement of Valsick and Mike Taylor are helping to ensure that the smaller farming operations more humanely (and healthily run,)are put out of business, while Big Corporate Monoliths prosper and our collective health fails.)


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:59 PM
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33. this is not about his 'accomplishments' ie health care that doesn't
even begin for three years, this is about here and now. he's a failure. failed. fail. But I suppose he won't care. he hasn't so far. I remember when dems led, when it cost something to do it and they did it anyway because IT WAS RIGHT! SO much for that. And so much for Obama. I want to see who is out there to run against him. Would serve him right to lose the nom.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:37 PM
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36. I think that you are confusing accomplishments with leadership.
Right now, we need leadership from the Pres. He needs to get off the fence and pick a side to stand on, and then LEAD. He is the President, the LEADER of the country, not the MEDIATOR.

I understand what you are saying, but this is about action and leadership, not accomplishments.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:49 AM
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48. Huh?
He is leading, he jsut is not leading in a manner that is helpful to 99 percent of the people of this nation.

Those 400 families that Michael Moore told us hold 50% of the assets of the nation, that is who our President is working for, and who he is demonstatrting "leadership."
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:45 AM
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50. Well, it seems you may be right about the last part.
And that is sad (that it is true, not that you are right)
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:14 PM
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23. Avoiding distractions (like you and me and Wisconsin)
Takes a lot of concentration to ignore us all and get some work done.

Oh, and Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, who'd I forget? Too many distractions, I can't concentrate long enough to remember.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:02 PM
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34. What's Really Sad Is That It Really Wouldn't Take Much To Get This Country Back On The Right Path...
We all know some of the right things that need to be done. It's just that nobody is doing them.

End the wars.

Cut the Defense Dept spending - and it can be done without sacrificing safety

Raise taxes on the rich; make them pay their fair share; eliminate the cap for SS altogether; if we poor and middle class have to pay on every penny we make - the rich should as well.

End corporate welfare; make them pay their fair share; end corporate tax loopholes; no off shore accounts

Stop outsourcing jobs; initiate tarriffs

Once and for all - we need to end our dependence on foreign oil; create all kinds of incentives for alternate energies

Take care of our own; universal healthcare

Fund education, the arts, etc - smart citizens will help this nation succeed and prosper

I'm sure I missed a few - but this isn't all rocket science. All these things could be done - if people just stopped their partisanship, buried their egos and work together.

It's just sad - that this can be achieved relatively easily with cooperation by all - but from where I'm sitting now and observing - it ain't never gonna happen.

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WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:23 PM
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35. He Has Taken A Stand
The White House ordered the DNC to not support the Wisconsin protests. His budget targets the very social programs he worked for in Chicago and they amount to very little more than the tax cuts for the wealthy that he gave to the Republicans in his compromise that had nothing for the Democratic side. All I can say is I don't want this man negotiating for me, but we don't have a better choice. We are the country with one party and it is becoming more obvious every day.


When I look at the proposed budgets of both the President and Congress, I see some differences in cuts. However, there is a common thread that makes the weight of the deficit fall onto the shoulders of those who can least afford to pay the bill. The cuts to programs like Community Service Block Grants, LIEAP, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Workforce Investment Act, Head Start and other social programs will decimate the safety net that many people in our country depend on to not starve, not freeze, receive training for new employment receive a boost in education so they can compete in a capitalist society. These proposed cuts will have far reaching consequences; the resulting layoffs from the agencies delivering the services will put undue strain on Social Security; the desperation created by pulling the net out from under the vulnerable will cause a resulting increase in crime as people struggle to survive; the base population will become more unstable and unable to secure even minimum wage jobs because of desperate living conditions; more people will become uninsured as they lose their jobs and benefits; the housing market will tank again because of the lack of access to affordable financing and a lack of potential homebuyers; the children from head Start will not receive the educational boost that levels the playing field. It is clear to me that the costs associated with these cuts will increase the deficit because of the equal but opposite social reactions they will put into motion.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:39 PM
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37. Maybe you are right.
Perhaps he HAS chosen sides, and it looks like its not our side. And that makes me sad.
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WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:02 PM
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39. It Make Me Sad Too
I had such great hopes for Obama and our country. I supported him through the first wave of strange decisions and concessions to the Republicans because I thought he was saving the big guns for the big stuff, but I am being proven wrong on a daily basis. This only leaves the question of what the hell do I do in 2012? I absolutely cannot and will not vote Republican but I am not sure I can vote for Obama.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:43 PM
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42. Last I saw, walking with Jeb Bush and praising his service as an education reformer
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:27 PM
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45. The nineteenth hole?
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:16 PM
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46. He's above the fray and keeping his powder dry and isn't about him and bipartisan and
etc etc.

I actually feel kind of bad for his defenders, since it's probably getting a little hard by this point.

He's doing what's best for unions by uh...by appearing with Union-Buster-Bush he uh....Jesus Christ...uh...He's lulling them into a false sense of security! That's what he's doing!
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:18 AM
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49. The problem is HE is corporate!
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51. Kick
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