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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:44 PM
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m$nbc: 3 nuclear reactors in trouble after Japan quake
TOKYO — Coolant systems failed at three quake-stricken Japanese nuclear reactors Saturday, sending radiation seeping outside one and temperatures rising out of control at two others.

Radiation surged to around 1,000 times the normal level in the control room of the No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima Daichi plant, Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said. Radiation — it was not clear how much — had also seeped outside, prompting widening of an evacuation area to a six-mile radius from a two-mile radius around the plant. Earlier, 3,000 people had been urged to leave their homes.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Saturday that the temperatures of its No.1 and No.2 reactors at its Fukushima Daini nuclear power station were rising, and it had lost control over pressure in the reactors.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42025882/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:50 PM
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1. Sounds ominous. Is it time to panic? I'm serious.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:54 PM
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3. I dunno...



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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:58 PM
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9. Potassium Iodide
I have enough for the whole neighborhood.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:03 PM
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11. No. The radiation release isn't that much.
They have valves that can vent off the steam, and the main radioactive component is tritium, which will dissipate quickly in the air. The main problem for these guys is the core is likely going to be destroyed, which is very costly to repair.
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:17 PM
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13. If the core melts we have to worry about radio iodine and other nasty fission products, not just H3.
Thankfully BWR's don't operate that close to thermal limits, the real issue is keeping water in the core, which requires the injection pumps to have power. We'll wait and see how this plays out.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:23 PM
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15. Even if it suffers a meltdown, the containment vessel should hold.
And if this is the type where the water is critical in slowing the neutrons down to keep fission going, it would lose heat after the water boiled away.

I did hear that new generators are on site.
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:01 PM
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18. I believe it's a BWR. Lots of questions still need to be answered here.
Hope the discharge effluent is isolated, especially if they isolated for a leak procedure. Solid core right after a scram is going to pop the reliefs.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:54 PM
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2. This is awful. Has anyone checked on the solar plants to make sure they're okay?
I can only imagine what would happen if a solar plant melted down.


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:55 PM
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4. too late for no nukes....
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:55 PM
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5. Sun pouring out all over!!! OMG
But seriously, these nuke plant issues are rather scary.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:57 PM
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8. scary as hell....
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:56 PM
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6. ABC news said 13 generators were close by
the problem is the lack of power to run the pumps. The only real fear now is another aftershock holding up the works.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:56 PM
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7. Is Japan about the size of Pennsylvania?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:58 PM
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10. here
Comparatively, the area occupied by Japan is slightly smaller than the state of California. It extends 3,008 km (1,869 mi) NE – SW and 1,645 km (1,022 mi) SE – NW and has a total coastline of 29,751 km (18,486 mi).

Read more: Location, size, and extent - Japan - located, area http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Asia-and-Oceania/Japan-LOCATION-SIZE-AND-EXTENT.html#ixzz1GL3VbC4y
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:10 PM
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12. 3 reactors = 3 times the size of PA.
I still remember the movie "The China Syndrome" and that statement about PA.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:18 PM
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14. I'm sick with worry. So much devastation to deal with already.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:25 PM
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16. it's horrifying. i only hope it all can be contained.
Radiation Levels Spike Inside Crippled Japanese Nuclear Reactor

Radiation levels inside a Japanese nuclear power plant have surged to 1,000 times their normal levels after today's 8.9-magnitude earthquake knocked out power to a cooling system, and tsunami floods have hampered efforts to get it restored.

Meanwhile, heat-induced pressure built up inside the crippled reactor, prompting widespread evacuations and stoking fears of a potentially catastrophic radioactive event.

Officials declared a "nuclear emergency" at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant, about 200 miles northeast of Tokyo, when its cooling system failed to function properly after the nuclear reactor lost power and automatically shut down.

Scientists said that even though the reactor had stopped producing energy, its fuel continues to generate heat and needs steady levels of coolant to prevent it from overheating and triggering a dangerous cascade of events.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/japanese-earthquake-stokes-nuclear-fears-damaged-power-plants/story?id=13114181
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:26 PM
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17. It really is...just plain horrifying. I'm hoping for the best.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:05 PM
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19. Five.
Five reactors are in emergency status:

http://apne.ws/dMj9QT
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