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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:35 PM
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Glass–Steagall Act.........
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 10:38 PM by rsmith6621
....What are your thoughts......Repeal or not Repeal... Hilary stated wanted it reenacted while Obama wouldn't have any part of it...WHY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:38 PM
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1. Reinstate. asap.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:40 PM
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2. +1....like yesterday.
And enforce the hell out of it.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:42 PM
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3. Bring it back
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pinkkillersheep Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:42 PM
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4. Absolutely
My mom's been preaching to me about this for years. (She works in finance - not by choice.)
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:43 PM
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5. Should have been reinstated a year ago, at least.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 10:46 PM by northoftheborder
You ask "why" Obama would have no part of it? Isn't the answer to that question painfully obvious? He surrounded himself with financiers and bankers, apparently having no independent idea of his own to question them.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:44 PM
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6. What the fuck??? I worked for a firm that spent millions to repeal the act and I
was opposed to it vehemently.

They are no longer in business, and billions of dollars were lost because of the repeal.

Now to the point of the Secretary of State versus the President of the United States, I have to call BULLSHIT.

Oh. and Un-recced.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:45 PM
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7. Why wouldn't Obama want to reinstate Glass-Steagall?
Because he's a neoliberal. As such, he wouldn't dream of doing such a thing. But it is one of the very first things that should have occurred when he assumed the Presidency.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:45 PM
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8. Reinstate (nt)
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:51 PM
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9. Hardly matters now
if a law is made in a forest, and no one is there to enforce it, does it make a sound?

As far as the "why"... opensecrets.org is your friend.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:16 PM
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15. +666 trillion (or the Kochroaches goal) nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:53 PM
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10.  Glass–Steagall Act was put into place to protect against acts that gave us our depression in the
Thirtys... Obama aid Larry Summers said this about the GSA being repealed:“With this bill,” Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers said, “the American financial system takes a major step forward toward the 21st Century — one that will benefit American consumers, business and the national economy.” Opponents said it would have the opposite effect, creating behemoths that will raise fees, violate customers’ privacy by sharing and selling their personal data, and put the stability of the financial system at risk.http://sweetness-light.com/archive/clintons-financial-services-modernization-act

Putting back into play the oversite rules like GSA and anything else to prevent these speculators from gauging the consumer is probably wise.... Let's get the job done...

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:54 PM
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11. "Hilary stated wanted it reenacted while Obama wouldn't have any part of it" What? n/t
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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:58 PM
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12. Rich people arguing about laws that mostly only affect them gets really,
REALLY tiring to people who are at the bottom of the totem pole.....if we're on the totem pole at all, AT ALL.

Knock yourselves out.

I/*we* have already been knocked out.

~~~~ Sorry that the *middle-class* doesn't care anymore BECAUSE, there IS NO middle class to care anymore.

Success@richevilratbastards.com

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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:04 PM
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13. Reinstate (nt)
n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:14 PM
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14. Duh. Bring it back. Of course. nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:17 PM
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16. Bring it back
Bring back Trust Busting legislation

Bring back the fairness doctrine

Bring back the GI Bill

Bring back the Marx Brothers - well, OK, maybe we can't do that...
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:34 PM
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17. Definitely reinstate along with a top tax bracket of 65% effective retroactively.
Get some of the money from those assholes that defrauded our economy out of trillions and plunged it in to a very dark hole.

Then reinstate the estate tax.

THEN lock the bastards up.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:36 PM
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18. The Repeal of Glass-Steagall gave the Gambler free reign
on Wall St and we are still suffering.

Bring back Glass-Steagall. You will make Wall St. very unhappy
and the thinking people on Main St. real happy.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:52 AM
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26. How did the repeal of Glass Steagall cause the real estate bubble or
the ensuing crash? How, exactly? You're saying had GSA never been repealed, we would not have had this financial crisis?

People keep saying that the repeal caused this whole mess, but they never give any specifics.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:38 PM
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19. Leave it in the trash can where it belongs
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:40 PM
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20. Here,
the Volcker rule:

<...>

The premise behind the Volcker Rule, like Glass-Steagall before it, is that there is a fundamental difference between commercial banking and investment banking. Commercial banking requires detailed local knowledge and patience. Nobody gets filthy rich lending to ordinary businesses. Investment banking, by contrast, is a trading culture. You don't need to know much about the underlying business if you have a feel for doing deals and reading market trends and can make a quick fortune. In the old days, investment bankers took these risks with their own money. Since the repeal of Glass-Steagall, giant outfits like Citigroup and Bank of America do both kinds of activity, putting their customers at risk and the taxpayer on the hook.

link


Panel Begins to Set Rules to Govern Financial System

WASHINGTON — The new regulatory board charged with overseeing the stability of the financial system took its first big steps on Tuesday to set out tentative guidelines to limit trading by banks for their own accounts and to restrict the growth of the biggest financial companies.

The Financial Stability Oversight Council, the grand council of financial regulators created by the Dodd-Frank Act, also proposed rules as to which large financial companies that were not banks would be regulated by the Federal Reserve because they constituted a potential threat to the nation’s financial system’s stability based on their size.

It is likely to take several days for Wall Street to wade through and decipher many of the implications of the recommendations, which were embedded in reams of studies, reports and regulatory filings released simultaneously Tuesday afternoon. Among the four documents was a 79-page report on the Volcker rule, the ban on trading by banks for their own accounts that is named for Paul A. Volcker, the former Fed chairman who championed the idea, and 46 pages of proposed rules on regulating nonbank financial companies.

The recommendations made public on Tuesday are subject to revision based on public comments and the recommendations of various other state and federal regulatory agencies. But the proposals are among the most concrete steps yet aimed at preventing financial institutions from becoming “too big to fail” and at keeping tabs on insurance companies and other companies whose activities could endanger the American economy.

<...>


Key study on implementing Volcker Rule released

The nation's most powerful financial regulators published a new blueprint Tuesday for how they will aim to keep banks from engaging in risky, speculative activity.

In a key step in the implementation of the financial reform legislation signed into law last summer, the Treasury Department and bank regulators approved an 81-page study Tuesday of how to implement the "Volcker Rule," the provision of the legislation that aims to keep banks that benefit from a federal government backstop from undertaking risky trading and other investment activities.

The document calls for "robust" enforcement of the law, first proposed by former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker as a step to try to prevent banks from making irresponsible bets that could ultimately necessitate a federal bailout.

"The regulations should prohibit improper proprietary trading activity using whatever combination of tools and methods are necessary to monitor and enforce compliance with the Volcker Rule," said the report, issued at a meeting of the Financial Stability Oversight Council on Tuesday. The council is meant to be a key policy-making body under the new financial reform law, consisting of the Treasury Secretary and the heads of the Federal Reserve, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., Securities and Exchange Commission and other top financial regulators.

<...>


Fed

The Federal Reserve Board on Wednesday announced its approval of a final rule to implement the provisions of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act that give banking firms a period of time to conform their activities and investments to the prohibitions and restrictions of the so-called Volcker Rule.

The Volcker Rule generally prohibits banking entities from engaging in proprietary trading in securities, derivatives, or certain other financial instruments and from investing in, sponsoring, or having certain relationships with a hedge fund or private equity fund. The statute generally provides banking entities two years to bring their activities and investments into compliance and allows the Board to extend this conformance period under certain conditions.

The Dodd-Frank Act requires that the Board issue rules implementing the Volcker Rule's conformance period. In developing the rule, the Board consulted with the Department of the Treasury, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The final rule is substantially similar to the proposal published in November.

The final rule is effective April 1, 2011.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:40 AM
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21. Glass-Steagall was a bad law
if you were a greed-obsessed banker. For the rest of us, it worked perfectly. Which is why it was relaced by 2,000 pages of lobbyist-authored claptrap.
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 01:56 AM
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22. A Real Democrat - Henry B. Gonzales
Henry B. Gonzales, now gone but never forgotten, was the long time Congressman from San Antonio Texas and Chairman of the house banking committee. He took no campaign funds from the financial sector, not that he would have received much given his populist approach to politics. He often said that he would defend the Glass-Steagall Act with his life because he knew about the evil deeds of banks and insurance companies during the Depression.

We could count on Henry B. Gonzales. From 1961 until ill health caused him to retire from Congress in 1998. The important portions of the Glass - Steagall Act were repealed in 1999.

I miss Henry B.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:35 PM
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30. Real man, too. Told E Howard Hunt if he drew a gun, he'd drop him where he stood.
From the Congressional Record

A bit on the bedwetting bastard who helped get rid of Glass-Steagal and the nice job he got afterward:

Know your BFEE: Phil Gramm, the Meyer Lansky of the War Party, Set-Up the Biggest Bank Heist Ever.

I, too, miss Henry B. Puro Westside, OutNow.

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:14 AM
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23. Repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act!
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:34 AM
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24. Not only should it be brought back
it should never have been repealed. We've seen the devestating results on the economy.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:54 AM
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27. What specific results? How did the repeal of GSA cause the crisis we've been
in for the past few years?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:37 AM
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34. ''The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One.'' -- William K. Black
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:40 AM
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25. Re-instate it, NOW
None of the recent meltdowns would have happened, not the housing bubble, not the mortgage securities crisis. The dumbfucks who saw to Glass Steagall's gutting knew this was the only possible outcome.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:54 AM
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28. Why wouldn't the housing bubble have happened if Glass Steagall
were still in place?
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:14 PM
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29. Reply to Common Sense Party Question...

This was a bipartisan fire sale started in 1999 of our protections from Corporate entities and their greed. Specifically under the Clinton Presidency proposed by the Republicans Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act, repealing the "Glass-Steagall Act" 1999 and accepted in total by the Republican Chair of the Finance Committee Jim Leach and unopposed by Democratic members of the committee. The Democrats in congress could have filibustered or President Clinton could have rejected this bill but surprisingly this did not occur.

During this period financial institutions and banks went completely reckless and irresponsible in their gambling on unsecured, unsubstantiated, packaged, repackaged mortgage securities and derivatives that they themselves packaged, repackaged, sold and resold to themselves generating False Wealth and False Value from absolutely NOTHING.

Fannie and Freddie continued to buy unsubstantiated unsecured sub-prime loans and securities with no over sight on the validity of the Loans ability to be paid back...

The Financial Meltdown itself occurred once it was revealed that rather than even maintaining a 20% capital liquidity to investment that banks and investment firms were over leveraged and being given erroneous unqualified triple A ratings by Bond rating agencies...(Still no one in jail...) on these frivolous bond, thus, they were unable to justify the valuation of packages they sold. Combine this with war and the Down turn in the Economy and all the false wealth disappeared collapsing the entire system.

THATS HOW REPEALING THE Glass_Steagall ACT ALLOWED this Ponzi scheme to occur.

I tried to be clear and concise leaving all the Maco and Micro economic factors out so it doesn't become a book...

I hope that this makes sense to you.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:39 PM
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31. Still not clear?
Go re-read ProSence's post at #20 on the Volcker Rule also called the Volcker Plan. Or go look up Volcker rule or Volcker plan...
Then read my post again...Pretty straight forward. Typical pyramid or ponzi scheme with our money instead of using their money...

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:59 AM
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32. The bubble would have happened anyway. Glass Steagall was not
doing anything to prevent rampant speculation, from what I can tell.

Many of the biggest meltdowns at the beginning of the too-big-to-fail crisis were not affected at all by the repeal. Lehman Brothers and AIG were not banks.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:23 PM
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36. The repeal of Glass-Steagall allowed any institution with money to act like a Ponzi scheme.
Repealing the law, basically, removed the distinctions between -- and the legal restraints upon banks -- investment houses, insurance companies, hedge funds, individuals, etc.

For details: Understanding How Glass-Steagall Act Impacts Investment Banking and the Role of Commercial Banks

And thanks to Wall Street's loyal servants in Congress, the game is rigged so all the gains go to private hands and all the risk falls on the taxpayers.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:01 AM
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33. Ask Byron Dorgan.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 01:03 AM by moondust
He might have an even better approach to the problems it addressed.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:39 AM
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35. why? Because he is on the wrong side
and doesn't represent the democratic agenda.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:46 PM
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37. Glass-Steagall should be re-implemented and major ...
Sherman Anti-Trust Act and RICO prosecutions to a degree that would overload DOJ and the court systems if we were a nation of justice and laws.

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