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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:25 PM
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CNN: dip in sales, Walmart is downsizing. Are the Boycotts hurting?
Hmmmmmm....could boycotting by the little people finally be hurting the retail giant?

It was just on CNN.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:27 PM
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1. Who is boycotting?
Depressed wages, unemployment, no credit

It's called NO MONEY TO SPEND
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:29 PM
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3. Exaxtly
Isn't it just the economy?
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:37 PM
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9. I live close to a Walmart...closest store to me
but I make sure now that I drive the extra to not spend there. I can't be the only one.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:01 PM
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16. Same here. In fact, my favorite nearby store just closed down due to WalMart
and I'm pissed as hell, but I will NEVER EVER shop there.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:08 PM
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20. You aren't. They are virtually the only grocery in my area--
so I drive 10 miles to another grocery.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:43 PM
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30. You're not.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:52 PM
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36. our walmart is doing bupkus. they are not doing business because
no one is spending what little they have. once it warms up and you don't have fuel bills out the kazoo it might get better but something tells me no. Also, I think boycotts help too.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:14 PM
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50. so big oil gets the benefit from you not shopping at walmart....
sorry roguevalley... just teasin'. I know you are trying to do the right thing! :0)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:26 PM
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46. did you ever shop there?
A boycott by someone who never shopped at WalMart isn't going to do that much.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:10 PM
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41. I am. Haven't set foot in there in 20 years.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:55 PM
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51. No disposable income and the boycott. Could it not be both?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:27 PM
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2. No, I see it as a bad sign. If the giant box can't get zoning clearance
to build and come into smaller towns, then Walmart will enter in a size reminiscent of K-Mart. You still get stuck with the same problems as Walmart no matter what size.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:31 PM
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4. Boycotting by which little people exactly?
"boycotting" Wal-Mart seems to be the exclusive province of people who a) can afford other options and b) are in an area where there are other options. As a percentage of total sales for Wal-Mart it probably amounts to not much at all. This would be the effet of real (vs "official") unemployment of 16-20% and jobless recovery.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:39 PM
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13. You are exactly right. Thank you for saying it.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:32 PM
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5. I think in a lot of places Walmart is getting underpriced by the dollar stores.
That being said, the Walmarts where I live are always pretty busy.

My guess is that most people who would boycott Walmart do not already shop there and those who do shop there do so because they cannot afford to shop elsewhere or it is the only game in town.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:18 PM
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28. i buy all my cleaning products,pop,water from a dollar store.
their prices are constituently cheaper than walmart
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:33 PM
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6. Who's boycotting?
I sure as hell ain't..I care more about saving money than making some obscure political point.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:02 PM
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17. Me. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:09 PM
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21. Me. nt
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:44 PM
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31. Me.
Oh well!
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thatgemguy Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:57 PM
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40. Me Too!
Haven't been in a Wal-Mart in over ten years.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:30 PM
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47. 'Obscure?'
Did you just have a cup of tea?

First, Walmart has set the wages and benefits so low in this country. They are the biggest employer in this nation. The managers tell the employees to get Public Aid....we taxpayers pay for the Walmart employees and this company pockets the profits.

Second, did you know that the Walton Family has more money than the bottom 1/3rd of our nation....that's 100 million people!!!

If you want this company to continue to screw the American worker, then go ahead and shop there. Just realize that you are basically cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I clip coupons and get the grocery ads every week....and I shop accordingly. What is on sale is what I eat. No expensive processed foods....I cook and freeze several meals at a time.

If you really care about saving money, you'd change your ways.....and help out your fellow worker by NOT shopping at Walmart.

Why are you on DU? A teabagging troll?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:34 PM
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7. MallWart has done its share to fuck the economy.
Only fair they should share in the pain caused by their stupid, greedy, shortisighted policies.
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pinkkillersheep Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:10 PM
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22. Could be worse. At least they pay taxes.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:34 PM
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8. It's a sign of how little money there is to be spent by bottom 90%.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:37 PM
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10. That's okay,
let them believe that. If companies start to believe that a boycott could hurt a giant like Walmart...what about the smaller ones? Like Target? Like M & I Bank..etc.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:39 PM
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12. I can't wait to see what happens at M&I next week and into spring break
Lots of teachers will have a chance to move their money over spring break. I sure hope they do it!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:00 PM
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15. I hope our state's credit unions
get alot more new accounts and start making small business loans again.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:38 PM
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11. Good, so more full=time workers will be made part-time, and more part-time workers will be fired.
Good news.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:00 PM
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14. No, they stupidly raised prices to the point that many other stores are cheaper
Empty shelves, stopped carrying best selling items, reorganized many stores to have larger grocery sections..... then raised prices above grocery stores, and introduced their "Great Value" generic line and promptly stopped restocking them in an effort to force consumers into buying the higher priced (read more profitable) national brands.

Its not a boycott thats damaging sales, its an inept, stupid, and greedy corporate bunch of executives that thought a deep recession was that appropriate time to try and squeeze their customers thats causing them to lose sales.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:26 PM
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29. Yeah, they did get greedy. A few years ago I noticed hotdog buns go from 58 cents to 1.58.
I thought "I'm not in this shithole to pay more for stuff than I would pay at the Meijer's" I also don't like that Walmart doesn't do a weekly circular ad. I check those online for several stores so I can decide which store I want to visit.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:14 PM
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42. Once they killed the competition with super low prices
they could raise prices as much as they want. In Oregon we are stuck with just a couple of grocery chains that set prices where they want. Items made in Oregon are cheaper to buy in LA than they are in Oregon!
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magdalena Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:52 PM
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49. I have to agree.
They used to have the cheaper products, but now I find that Target or other stores have much better prices. I haven't personally shopped at a WalMart for years, but I go with my mom every so often and am always horrified at the quality of their meat and produce. Even if they were cheaper I would never buy that garbage.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:05 PM
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18. No jobs, no money even for Walmart.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:07 PM
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19. It's not a boycott when people just don't have the money to spend.
Walmart sells to the working class, and the economy has been awful for the working class.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:16 PM
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27. +1
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:14 PM
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23. No - the working poor just have less to spend there. Upscale shops are doing just fine, thankyou.
.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:14 PM
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24. Many big box stores are being hurt by internet retailing.
Fewer people are shopping there.

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110313/NEWS19/103130324/-1/NEWSMAP

Major big-box retailers have been shifting to smaller stores — and scratching around for more profitable ways to fill under-used spaces as they go about reinventing themselves. As consumers trim their spending and shift their shopping to cyberspace, American retailers are acting on a realization that many stores are too big.

"You have a massive rush throughout retail to get small," says Leon Nicholas of consulting firm Kantar Retail. "Honestly, I am not sure what's going to happen with a lot of these giant boxes."

Some retailers are becoming landlords, turning excess space over to other businesses. Others are trying to fill the space themselves by stretching into new products and services. Sears reached a deal to lease 34,000 square feet of space in Greensboro, N.C., to Whole Foods Market Inc. for a grocery store set to open in 2012. Sears will operate the remainder of the space in the store. Home Depot Inc. is selling off portions of its parking lots to fast-food chains and auto repair shops. Gap Inc. is reverting to a Russian nesting-doll strategy: after years of expanding by adding standalone stores such as GapKids and Gap Body, it is shrinking them and stacking them back inside its namesake Gap stores. Best Buy Co. last week became the latest retail chain to go smaller, announcing last week that it was slowing growth of new big-box stores this year in favor of adding 150 Best Buy Mobile locations, focused on smartphones. Best Buy, which already added musical instruments to its regular electronics inventories in an effort to fill floor space, is also getting into health and exercise equipment to better utilize its larger stores.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. also said last week that it was accelerating the rollout of smaller locations — 40,000 square feet or less — after it reported a seventh straight quarterly decline in sales at U.S. stores open at least a year.


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:15 PM
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25. went to a local super walmart yesterday and ...
there was at least a thousand pieces of clothing on sale/clearance for 5 dollars or less. i`d guess at least two to three hundred other stuff on clearance. the funny thing is the clearance items were anywhere from 10 to 40% off.most of the stuff would`t sell for 75% off.

walmart has raised it`s prices and cut it`s vendors in favor of their cheap great value brand. i can get better prices by using sales and coupons at other stores where i live.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:15 PM
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26. I think the Dollar Stores/99cent stores are hurting the most.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:45 PM
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32. Me
I hate them and haven't bought anything there in decades.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:48 PM
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33. Nope.. they are just delivering the coup de grâce to the remaining grocery stores
These stores they spoke of are food stores.. In most communities, the Super Walmarts had grocery stores within them, but in smaller communities that still have local grocery stores, the smaller venue suits walmart just fine.. kill off their local stores, and the people can just drive to the walmart in the next town for the $4 plastic flip flops & the $8 jeans..
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:24 PM
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45. I live in an area in which Super Targets build right across the street from Super Wal Marts
The groceries here in Omaha(Bakers - aka Kroger, HyVee, Aldi, Fareway, Bag N Save) do OK. In smaller towns though, the IGA type grocers get slaughtered. This becomes a problem when the Wal Mart is 20-30 miles away.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:49 PM
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34. I think it's gas and utilities
A lot of people who shop at Walmart for savings are getting pounded into the ground with the recent cost increases. They just have less money to spend.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:52 PM
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37. You could be right
I know that in our house we've had to cut out some extras to cover the gas bills.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:50 PM
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35. Yeah, people losing their jobs is something to rejoice. Let's hope you get downsized as well.
:shrug:
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:53 PM
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38. Yep, my district is facing a 25% cut so, yeah, I'm in the same boat.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 03:54 PM by Snoutport
And I don't rejoice when anybody loses their job. It is horrible. That is why a lot of people don't like Walmart, because it gobbled up all the jobs and ruined the competition.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:57 PM
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39. Nope. People are just broke. Walmart and their ilk have bled us dry.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:20 PM
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43. They've simply built too many stores in certain areas and have screwed up same store sales
Unless you are a large stockholder, there's nothing to see here.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:23 PM
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44. In my region Walmart sales are dropping but sales at Macy's,
Nordstrom, Sears, COSTCO and Penneys are rebounding. It is a sign that the economy is improving and some feel that they can return to department stores rather than shop at the discounters.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:37 PM
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48. It's the Obama recovery. Not as many people need to shop in that shithole now.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 04:39 PM by Shagbark Hickory
Back in the bush years, yeah. Now, not so much.

Of course, I don't believe for a second they are downsizing.

I did read they are building new smaller format stores but they aren't closing stores. Nope, rapidly expanding. Even into China, where most of their merchandise comes from.
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