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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:59 PM
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Millionaire Dentist Steals Navy Vet's Credit Card And Buys 2 Large Pizzas
No warfare like class warfare....
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Davenport, Florida - Harrun Majeed was in a hurry on Saturday, as many of us are while grocery shopping.

He was at Publix getting supplies for his 9-year-old son's birthday. Majeed's hands were full of bags, and he was busy trying to make it to the car.

That's when it happened.

"I felt sick," he said. "I felt really bad. My wife was like, 'Oh, you know, it'll be OK.' No, I know I dropped that card somewhere."

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=179524
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:09 PM
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1. I love the last paragraph - what a cool Sheriff's Department
The dentist thief is an asshole; he ought to get an extra strict sentence just for that ridiculous "brain fade" excuse...
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:10 PM
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2. Probably gonna use the receipt to write it off his taxes too! nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:22 PM
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3. the headline has multiple inaccuracies
First, it was a debit card, not a credit card.
Second, the dentist did not steal it. He found it, and figured that it was free money.

It is kinda surprising that he is being charged with 3 felonies over the attempted theft of $40.

I sorta feel the pizza place should be charged too, for charging that much for two large pizzas. That's highway robbery.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:25 PM
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4. Okay
Really?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:28 PM
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5. Situational ethics for the "spirit of Christ" folks I guess.
:eyes:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:47 PM
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37. what does that have to do with anything?
Do we know each other?

I never said I approved. I said there is a difference.

I still think three felony charges seems kinda harsh.

But I'd be surprised if he got more than a fine and probation.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:41 PM
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46. Yeah, it's not really theft if you "find it"
The poor guy trying to do something for his son is "overreacting". He needs to "grow a skin".

What we have become..... :(
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:28 PM
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6. "He found it, and figured that it was free money"
Have you tried this one yourself?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:44 PM
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35. I do find stuff all of the time
including a $100 bill once.

I felt bad about that, but how was I supposed to get it back to the person who lost it? I did hang around for 5 minutes hoping they would come back and then put some feelers out, but no luck.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:17 PM
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40. Cards have names on them, cash doesn't have an "owner" in the same way.
It's fraud to use a banking card that isn't yours. Finding cash on the ground is indeed lucky, but not illegal and you're free to do whatever you want with it. Not the same if you find a Visa on the ground.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:22 PM
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42. but apparently finding a visa on the ground IS
the same thing as knocking somebody over the head and stealing their VISA, or knocking them out with N2O.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:20 PM
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50. I once found a folded $20 bill on the floor in a stall in the ladies'
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 11:23 PM by tblue37
room in the building where my office is. (I teach in a university.) I posted This message on the mirror: "Money found in stall. Describe it--amount and physical condition--and I will return it."

As it turned out, the money belonged to a 20-year-old student from one of my classes! The young woman was a single mother with a 19-month-old daughter. The money was a $20 bill folded in fourths, and she had stuck it in the front chest pocket of her overalls. She worked for buildings and grounds on campus, so she wore overalls for work. The bill had slipped out when she took down the overalls to use the toilet.

She was very poor, and without that money, she and her baby would have gone hungry that week. (This was in 1973, when $20 could actually buy a bit of food.)

But I remembered when I was little and something similar happened to my mother. We were also poor, and with six kids to feed, my parents had to make the money stretch pretty far. Mom had left her wallet at the dimestore by accident. When she realized it was gone, we raced back to find it. Fortunately, the person who found it had turned it over to lost and found, and Mom got the wallet back, with her money still in it. I was only 9 when it happened (1959), but I never forgot her terror over losing the money or her relief at finding it.

That's why it never occurred to me to not try to find the owner of the $20. It was easy enough to make sure the right person got it back, since the bill's amount and physical condition were so specific. You never know who the money belongs to, and whoever it is, their need might be very great. Besides, it's their money.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:29 PM
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7. ordered over the phone.... wire fraud?
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:30 PM
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8. Never mind that, if you're rich or "blessed" others debit cards are just "free money" n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:32 PM by AlabamaLibrul
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:42 PM
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9. A debit card is a card with one's name on it and linked to a bank acccount...
There is no confusing it with "free money". The man knowingly committed a felony.
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:50 PM
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14. What'll be surprising is if all 3 charges stick.
I can see this fool lying and/or buying his way out of this mess.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:53 PM
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15. Well, it is Polk County, FLA
That place is messed up.
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Cattledog Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:53 PM
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16. No he stole it.
When you find a CC or DC and then take possession of it and use it is stealing. Same as finding car keys next to a car then driving off in it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:20 PM
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41. you konw, there used to be a myth
that liberals could see shades of gray, instead of the typical black or white. That maybe people could see a distinction between finding a card and stealing a card.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:34 PM
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45. The card has the name of the owner right on the front!
This isn't a $10 bill lying in the grass. It's a bank card, with the owners' name right on the front. On the back of your card, there's even an address to return it. It's OBVIOUS to anyone non-criminal that the card isn't "free money".

The theft was the man using the card - withdrawing money from the poor man's bank account without authorization. If I had found the card, I'd hand it to a police officer or contact the bank from the number on the back. I have actually done that before. That is the proper thing to do when you find a card in a parking lot.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:57 PM
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17. You can't be serious.
Using another persons debit card (without permission) is FRAUD! And Theft!
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Johnny_dollar Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:00 PM
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29. Not to mention...
that to actually use the card, he would have to forge the owner's sig, since he could have known the PIN.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:32 PM
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34. Here's an analogy.
You lose your wallet. I come along, and see it on the ground and help myself to the cash that I find in it. Would you then say that "You stole my wallet."

I don't think that would be accurate.

It's not the same level as somebody who picks a pocket or snatches something when somebody else isn't looking.

He didn't go out looking to steal from somebody, he sorta just 'lucked' into it. An opportunity to do the wrong thing, and he took it.
Of course, one has to wonder how many other corners he cuts when he thinks he can get away with it.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:47 PM
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36. I would say you stole my cash.
And I would hope I could find you so I could beat you senseless for stealing my cash. It would be obvious who it belongs to - the ID is in the wallet. It's theft, not luck.
As for a card, using a credit card (debit is the same) without authorization is fraud. I didn't give you permission to pull money from my account and you are pretending to be me.

This guy should have been dressed in a jumpsuit that said "child molester" and thrown into general lockup. I have no tolerance for thieves.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:12 PM
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38. and there is a difference between stealing the wallet and stealing the cash
funny thing is that "beating people senseless" is usually illegal as well. Often a more serious crime than mere petty theft.

But you apparently have tolerance for people who assault other people, as long as they think they have a good reason to do so.

But how about if we just cut his hands off?
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:29 PM
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44. Cutting hands off is too easy.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 08:35 PM by NutmegYankee
I personally like how 17th century Britain handled their thieves. Hang 'em. Imagine the money that could be diverted from housing these scum to feeding and providing jobs for the poor, health care to the sick, and clean energy to the country.

Hyperbole? It is, but perhaps you've never been a victim of theft before. If you find a wallet with ID and other identification of the owner and steal the cash, you are a thief. It's really that simple. This isn't some hungry and starving child stealing an apple to feed himself, this was a millionaire stealing a poor man's money. It's disgusting. I had a thief steal property from me, and when he was caught they found that the guy was living a real "bling bling" lifestyle. Scum.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:35 PM
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52. Both actions are stealing. n/t
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:58 PM
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47. That is a bizarre line of situational ethics you have going there.
So I just happen to find your car keys in a parking lot, press the unlock button and locate the car by the flashing lights, it would be alright if I just drive away in it because I didn't steal the keys, I just "sorta just lucked into it"?
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:46 AM
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54. be sure to keep your house and yard locked up around this DU'er
You won't want to "leave" a rake sitting against your fence somwhere..

Or an apple pie halfway out the window :rofl: (but half of it was in the air outside, not really "inside" the house)

Oh, and stay away from my fruit trees. Yes, even though you can reach the peach tree from the sidewalk those aren't for you. The school kids get those in summertime :)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:55 AM
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55. Just because he wasn't a pickpocket or stick-up man doesn't make him any less the thief
and as an aside, one of the reasons we have so much unchecked fraud on Wall Street is because too much of the general public and legal system believe that the only "real" robberies must involve ski masks and guns...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:18 PM
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31. I think he should be jailed. he just showed his contempt for us. he found it and didn't give it in
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 07:20 PM by roguevalley
which was the right thing to do. he stole money. fuck him. I hope he's humiliated forever. I would get a new dentist.

So if you 'find' a card and figure its 'free money' its no big deal? Shit.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:16 PM
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39. I never said it was not a big deal.
I don't think it is such a big deal that he should get the death penalty though. I don't think it even rises to the level to make him 3rd worst person in the world, especially since I think Dick Cheney and Ralph Nader have the top two spots locked down. And I would put Alan Greenspan 3rd probably. Or maybe Carl Rove. And what about Quadaffi? Or that guy from Turkmentistan?

There are lots of people ahead of this minor league putz.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:13 PM
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49. not to the man who owned the card. this cheap shit head ruined
a little boy's party and made heartache. I know that doesn't rise to the level of people of international evil but to the boy and his family it did. I am sick of people saying this isn't as bad as say these douches over here. It is.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:32 PM
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51. *Using* a debit card or credit card that belongs to somebody else is
theft. He found the card, but he stole the man's money with the card!
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:48 PM
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13. Luckily you can't, and someone canceled you out. Thanks! n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:47 PM
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12. ...
Deputies say that when they asked him why he took the card and used it, Dr. Ludwig told them, "I picked up the card, what was I supposed to do with it?"
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:00 PM
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18. His customer rating doesn't look too good...
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 06:01 PM by Nostradammit
http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/dr-md-reports/dr-richard-ludwig-dds-489e9a7f.cfm


Overall 2 stars out of a possible 5
Recommend 1.5 stars out of a possible 5
TRUST 1.5 stars out of a possible 5
Communicates 2 stars
Listens 2 stars
Etc.






Fucking weasel.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:03 PM
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19. That sounds like someone in the manic phase of bi-polar disorder
Bullet-proof.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:06 PM
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20. Wouldn't someone experiencing mania be less than "very relaxed"?
The manager says he was very relaxed, while mania suggests being overly excited or physically agitated.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:12 PM
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24. Not necessarily
And I'm not trying to defend this guy. But in my experience, where you see someone take a stupid and totally illogical risk that any rational person would never try, it often turns out that the person is bi-polar. In the manic phase the person acts impulsively and has no regard for "getting caught" and doesn't weigh the consequences in any rational way.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:17 PM
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26. Interesting - I don't have much more to add at this time but point taken n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:22 PM
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33. could also be an entitlement freak, which most rich people are
who decided to use someone else's money. not everyone in the world who does stupid shit is bi-polar. some are just dumb ass criminals. Like this idiot.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:07 PM
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21. How do you use a debit card over the phone?
Don't you need a PIN number?
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:10 PM
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22. My guess is that they run all cards "as credit" i.e. signature/key-in transaction n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 06:10 PM by AlabamaLibrul
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:10 PM
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23. It doubles as a credit card as well.
You can punch either "Debit" or "Credit" on the card readers at the grocery store. Press "Debit" and you'll have to enter you PIN. Press "Credit" and they'll want your signature.

The only difference between the two instruments is that debits come out of checking, and credits get added to your debt total.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:18 PM
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32. They're absolutely seperate in Canada
The debit card is only issued by one of the five major banks. Credit cards such as Visa or MC can be from anywhere.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:14 PM
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25. I can use my navy federal card as debit or credit - one needs PIN, the other not. nt
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:13 PM
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48. I use mine all the time to order pizza
It's a debit card from my bank with a Visa label on it. They just ask for the cc number, expiration date, and I think the security number on the back of the card. If I use it at a store (gas pump, etc..) the little machine I swipe it thru asks "debit or credit".
We've had a rash of card info stealing around here so local officials are telling people to examine the gas pumps before you swipe your cards because thieves are attaching card reading "skimmers" to the card insertion section.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:19 PM
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27. And the guy said he just picked it up, so what was he to do with it. Not
too long ago there was a thread here about a guy who went through a drive in window at a fast food place and got the bank deposit in his bag rather than his order.

One poster insisted it was 'found money', the store's loss because of inattention, and that the customer should have kept it.

There are people like this, hopefully not a whole lot of them, but they do exist.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:03 PM
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30. there have been many cases of homeless people are others who don't have much
who have returned the money .



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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:27 PM
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28. Don't know why he had to wait a week for a new card, mine was UPSed the next day
Someone charged an AmEx gift card for over $6000 to my VISA. They canceled the card immediately and I received a new one the next day via UPS.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:27 PM
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43. There are plenty of nasty millionaires.
Billionaires too.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:35 AM
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53. That dentist is a cheapskate, and a dick...
He should be old enough to know better...This is a stunt even a high schooler wouldn't be excused for...
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