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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:38 PM
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There were some problems with the Edano presser
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 11:38 PM by Hannah Bell
Edano made a misstatement: said that there was a reading of 1000 milli sieverts at the plant this am. edit (or maybe 10,000? confusion was between milli & micro unit)

So they had another press conference from the nuclear safety commission of japan to correct.

He made a mistake -- it was micro sv not mill sv

in addition, levels went down and workers are on the way back as of 1 hour ago.



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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:44 PM
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1. Hannah, Did you hear this on NHK or other live news?
Good to know the workers are heading back.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:00 PM
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4. that is a recorded presser of the edano press conference that just took place
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 11:04 PM by Hannah Bell
the japanese nuclear security people came on immediately after & made corrections.

i was listening, trying to transcribe translation & trying to hear the japanese -- i believe it was tbs but not sure.

i am confident the corrections will appear shortly.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:38 PM
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8. Thanks, good to know
Looks like they are now ready to ask for US military assistance at the plants.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
0349: Japan says it is ready to ask the US military for help in battling the crisis at the Fukushima nuclear plant, the AFP news agency reports.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:45 PM
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2. I watched as much of it as I could take
of the sheer misery of being left with nothing, freezing and hungry, having it all gone in the space of a couple of minutes.

Some things are just beyond imagining.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:50 PM
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3. BBC has video, says Live
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:02 PM
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5. that's the video of the edano presser. it isn't live because it ended about
half an hour ago.

following that the nuclear safety commission did a follow-up presser & issued corrections.

i believe they will appear shortly.

if not i will apologize for my misinterpretation.
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SpoonFed Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:33 PM
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6. I am for one, skeptical.

They were reporting 400 mSvs at the plant, now with the fire?

I doubt they would pull all workers if it wasn't true that
levels had reached something in the high milli range, given
the severity of the situation.

They are losing credibility by the minute. Are we to believe
that Edano at this point doesn't know the difference between
uSvs and mSvs?

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:37 PM
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7. i'm telling you what i heard the japan nuclear safety commission rep say.
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 11:40 PM by Hannah Bell
in translation.

maybe it was 10,000 msv -- the confusion was between micro & milli.

i don't know what edano knows, but i know that he hasn't been getting enough sleep.

there is actually a "campaign" on to get him to go to bed, which was referred to in passing in the press conference --

if you don't believe me, that's fine. i don't have a link & i wouldn't believe myself either without one.

however, as people were just starting to post reports that the workers had been evacuated because of these high levels, (which actually happened three hours ago) while i had just heard via presser that they were coming back, i posted it.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:46 PM
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9. Tireless Edano Earns Twitter Respect
March 15, 2011
Tireless Edano Earns Twitter Respect

Amid the well-wishes and cheerleading messages being sent to those living in the disaster-ridden areas via Twitter, one of the few surefire ways to communicate in these times of disrupted networks, the Japanese have another message for someone else: imploring the government’s tireless spokesman Yukio Edano to get some rest.

The plea has grown so loud that the hashtag #edano_nero has become a global trending topic on the micro-blogging service on Monday. “Nero” means to sleep in Japanese.

“Mr. Edano, please don’t overdo it,” wrote Twitter user “sarang5NY” Monday afternoon. “I respect you very much for explaining the situation to the people every time you speak rather than reading from a script.”

Mr. Edano, Prime Minister Naoto Kan’s right-hand man, has been firmly planted behind the podium while relaying every development since the catastrophes hit. His constant presence on blanket live TV coverage, sometimes several times an hour, at all hours of the day, has made him the government’s face and voice of the crisis. The image of his stocky figure, covered in the light blue one piece emergency suit, bent over the microphone, his two hands gripping the sides of the podium, has been burnt into the country’s psyche, earning him plaudits for his steadfastness.



http://blogs.wsj.com/scene/2011/03/15/tireless-edano-earns-twitter-respect/


He's looking really exhausted now in the feeds
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:50 PM
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12. thanks for posting that.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:55 AM
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16. here is confirmation though it doesn't discuss the error per se.
Govt: radiation spike likely from No.2 reactor

Japan's nuclear safety agency says a possible radiation leak from the Number Two reactor may have caused the sharp increase in radiation levels on Wednesday at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station, north of Tokyo.

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency told reporters on Wednesday that the level of radiation near the plant's main gate rose to 10 millisieverts per hour at 10:40 AM, but dropped to 2.7 millisieverts per hour within 30 minutes.

The agency said the radiation increase prompted workers at the plant to temporarily evacuate.

The agency said Tokyo Electric Power Company suspects that the increase was caused by the Number Two reactor. The reactor's pressure control facility, called the suppression pool, has been damaged.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/16_26.html


you can confirm that he initially said 1000 millisieverts by discussion on the web, e.g. here:

Headline is false (possibly mistranslation).
According to http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/latest-updates-o...:

11:13 P.M. (EST) Core Group of Workers Remain at Plant The Times’s Hiroko Tabuchi reports that a small group of workers remains at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, contrary to what an English translation of the chief cabinet secretary’s remarks had implied.

Edit: http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2 is also reporting that workers are (back) in. Also NHK is clearly reporting that the chief secretary misspoke radiation levels and used milli instead of micro.

http://news.ycombinator.net/item?id=2330594




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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:04 AM
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18. People seem to be tuning out a lot now on this because we don't
Edited on Thu Mar-17-11 12:05 AM by defendandprotect
feel we're getting honesty --

In fact, at least in one interview I saw with a correspondent she commented on

the frustration of journalists and not feeling confident in what was being offered.

That was a few days ago --

We're hearing now that a simple new electrical line can restore COOLING to one of

the reactors? And that might not have been done earlier? This is immensely stressful

for all those on the site -- but we can be sure that like what went on with BP and

the flooding of the ocean floor with oil for 60 days that politics were still going on

behind the scene -- !!

And BP spent $75 million in one month on PR to avoid accountability.

Sad to say this, but it's an obvious side effect of capitalism --



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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:47 PM
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10. Thx! Is there an CNIC event tonight? That was the best info so far?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:52 PM
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13. is that the foreign press club's info session with prof goto, the reactor designer?
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 11:54 PM by Hannah Bell
if so, someone linked it before i left & i asked them to take notes...

i will check -- here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=649433&mesg_id=649433
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:19 AM
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14. Yes, that's the one! I watched the one early this a.m - very informative
I was wondering if there were any more scheduled?
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SpoonFed Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 11:59 PM
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17. yes i would think
I have watch it at the same time for the past 3 days
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:48 PM
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11. Thanks for the updates
They are appreciated.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:21 AM
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15. Yeah big difference. 1000mSv/hr is lethal in a few hours.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 12:24 AM by Statistical
1mSv not so much.

Edit: I forgot the S in mSv. I need some sleep 2.
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