Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I wonder how many rescue and clean-up workers in Japan are union...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:32 PM
Original message
I wonder how many rescue and clean-up workers in Japan are union...
And have proper training because they're union, have the equipment needed to do the job because they're union, are willing to put themselves in danger because they're union....etc.

I wager a good deal. I used to work as a municipal employee. We had everything on hand for stuff like this (within reason, we didn't own a helicopter or anything) but we had emergency procedures in place, attack plans, a lot of stuff a private contractor never would have thought about cause nobody would have made them think about it.

If I'm in a place like Miyagi prefecture, I certainly would feel better knowing an established, well-oiled public union was in charge of my rescue as opposed to some private company that got the contract by being cheap, which is because it cuts corners.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. They fund their services well
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. The almost undoubtedly are
But the Japanese unions are not exactly the Teamsters when it comes to separation from management
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
3. Lot of unions there but I doubt they are union - might be though
Their public employees are very highly regarded as a class - they actually get a lot of respect from people for working in the government. So it would seem a bit incongruous tome if they had a union; but they certainly would have some sort of leadership structure to enable 'labor' to participate on an equal footing in the consensus process of decision making.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:42 AM
Response to Original message
4. Unions in Japan are very different than here.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 01:47 AM by SlipperySlope
To begin with, unions are "employer specific". If you are a Honda auto worker then you belong to the Honda auto worker's union. If you are a Toyota auto worker then you belong to the Toyota auto worker's union. Because the unions are tied to the specific company, the unions tend to be tightly aligned to the companies interest.

Public workers in Japan can unionize with certain exceptions (law enforcement, firefighters, prison guards, coast guard, and military are prohibited from unionizing). Although public workers can unionize they are prohibited from striking or negotiating wages. Again, the unions are employer-specific, so a public worker might belong to the "city of X public worker union".

The requirement that unions be employer specific naturally leads to Japan having lots of small unions instead of a few big unions. I think there are over 70,000 unions there. Smaller unions do join together into "trade associations", but they still negotiate independently of each other.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 08:09 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC