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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:59 AM
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Majority Whip Eric Cantor's Idea
This morning as I was getting ready for work I was watching Morning Joe. And low and behold there was Rep. Cantor. he made a statement that the cuts they were making was like every other American household has to do curb wasteful spending and learn to do more with less. I think he is right.

So I think the American people should start by making sure people like Rep. Cantor must do more with Less. Since the average American only makes approximately 60,000 dollars a year, then I think Congress should be more in line with the Average American pay scale. Since congressmen make about 170,000 a year why haven't we gone after their salaries and pensions. Why would we allow them to have something that they say the American people cannot have? They say they cannot afford to give the American people Health Care then why are we subsidizing theirs. Yes they pay into whatever program they choose but the American people pick up part of that tab.

Those Governors who want to cut everything, make them fight to keep their own. We should not be fighting to keep what we have. We should make them fight to keep what they have,lucrative salaries,subsidized Health care, Pensions and retirement plans. If they want to take it from the American people why don't the American people take what it is they have. Why should they be allowed to keep what they have and tell you the American people what it is you are not entitled to. To me it seems they are the ones who are comfortable in entitlements.To allow them to attack our basic needs and claim they are doing it because the American people want it and need to stop spending. Well we can start by demanding that they get in line with the pay of the average American worker.

Starting with local,state, and federal. Not the workers who have had their rights taken away, but the ones who have taken their rights away. It is time for them to know what it feels like to have someone come after their livelihood.It is time that we bring this Job-Destroying Congress to its knees.

I sound crazy!!Maybe!! But we have lost jobs,homes,cars,businesses,schools,blood,sweat,and tears. There is not much more they can take from us. Don't you think it is time that they feel what the Average American feels when they are told that they are about to have a vital program or service cut. They should know how it feels when someone attacks their wages. Like Rep. Corker(ky) said about the UAW. Their wages need to be brought more in line with other working Americans. Why they make over 100,000 dollars a year. And all the perks. No if the Average American can do it Congress should be the EXAMPLE!!!!!!!!!

Time to write the President.and Both Houses and demand that they take a pay cut. Write to everyone in the media and whoever will listen until we get traction. They came for us,NOW LETS GO FOR THEM!!!!







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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:02 AM
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1. As grandma used to say... "What's good for the goose...
is good for the GOP assholes." Well, she sorta implied that, anyway!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:03 AM
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2. How is trying to be able to pay for food, education and housing wasteful spending?
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:11 AM
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4. It is not
but when you are comfortable on someone else's dime you can talk shit.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:04 AM
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3. I understand your frustration but I think our efforts are better served
criticizing the tax breaks they give to millionaires and all the corporate welfare the Republicans love so much.

Cutting their salaries and benefits only illustrates the point that we somehow can't afford public employees or a large and functioning government...bullshit!

I want the government to do more for the working and middle classes, not less. I think the government should create more jobs and invest in America, since it's clear the corporations won't be creating jobs any time soon.

Most Congress critters work A LOT and travel every weekend so their salaries aren't that absurd considering the lifestyle and cost of living in D.C.

Eric Cantor is dog shit. It would be kind of fun to see him try to survive on Social Security or unemployment benefits to see how he likes it, though :)
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:15 AM
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6. Yes we need to work on
those tax breaks for the millionaires. But until they know we will come get their ass for lining up with the lobbyist then they will continue to do what they do. They must understand if they side with them then we are going to side with US!!! They have gone to far. Start messing with their mouthpieces and you will see something new out of Congress.No we have been on the defensive for too long. It is more of us than it is of them. We are 97% strong!!!!!!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:13 AM
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5. Or how about getting rid of the bush tax cuts to the rich?
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 10:14 AM by Botany
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:20 AM
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7. We have been beating
that drum for over two years. They are not listening to us. But when you hit home then they must listen. See how all the people started getting organized when those Governors said they were cutting their wages,pensions,collective bargaining rights.

Trust and believe when we come after their precious income they are going to run like a chicken with the head off. They will not believe we would actually come after their money. They say its expensive to live in Washington D.C. and surrounding suburbs. Looks like they will need cheaper accommodations. Oh and don't they owe the American people rent for using the House as a home???
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:59 AM
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12. Big rec
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:23 AM
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8. I think that's worthless rhetoric for the most part
Congressional salaries contribute practically nothing in terms of the massive outlay of the federal budget. Even less than the "foreign aid" that whack jobs always scream about. If you give congress people a token salary, the only people who will ever run for the office are millionaires, which is pretty much the case as it is. I would wager there are plenty of good people in congress that would never be able to take the job if it meant working for two years, or more if they do a good job, on a token salary. And yes I understand that to plenty of people a $60,000 salary is anything but token. I have been one of those people plenty in my life. Still, cutting pay for congress is a knee jerk tea party kind of idea that won't solve anything and in fact will just put more rich guys in office.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:30 AM
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9. Not worthless
I personally am like many Americans. I am in the 97%. And I did not say I was trying to use their salaries to actually cut the deficit. I want their ass cut like they do to working Americans. I don't give a sweet flying you know what about Congress or their dependents. They don't give a fuck about mine,yours,or the other 97% of Americans who are being asked to sacrifice everything including the kitchen sink. No those Job-Destroyers need to feel their job cuts along with the rest of AMERICA!!!!! Let them live off their millions and eat cake!!!!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:35 AM
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10. Fortunately not everyone in the House of Representatives is a millionaire
Yet.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:46 PM
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15. So that should make it all the better.
Are we supposed to really care about the Houses financial ability to pay their bills. If they are not millionaires yet then lets keep them from becoming that way. I don't care they can go to their wittle C-street buddies and rent a room. they do not deserve more than the average American I will not feel any sympathy for someone who is making close to two hundred thousand dollars a year. especially when our tax dollars make it possible for them to be paid such a sum. And these fools are trying to tell the American people that they cannot have what it is the American people have PAID into. Congress can ____ my ___.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:02 PM
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17. I don't think they need your sympathy
I understand your frustration, however, I think your symbolic gesture is not only meaningless in terms of shaping policy, it is utterly counter productive. If we want people in congress that better reflect average people it is moronic to create conditions which virtually guarantee that only the very wealthy can pursue public office.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:18 PM
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20. No its not
counter productive. What is counter productive is outsourcing jobs to countries that pay two dollars a day, whats counter-productive is using predatory lenders to steal people homes and leave them with a mountain of debt. Or a house under water.Whats counter-productive is the Bush tax cuts,Mitch McConnell, Boehner,Faux News etc. These are counter- productive. And I see them saying some ignorant reason why they should not have to give up their money. But 97% is supposed to lay down and be stepped on. I don't think so!!!Those lazy working on the back of every underpaid American Congressmen need to know what it feels like for someone to attack their wages. And you did not ask but I think this attitude should be with everything they are trying to cut. If they want to cut Teachers pay then they should not teach. State workers should not work. Everywhere they want to drive down wages they should have a civil revolt. Plain and Simple!!!!!!!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:24 PM
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22. You are right about all those things
except that lowering congressional salaries wouldn't suddenly make some Congressman "see the light" about any of those issues. It would just mean no one who works for a living will ever run for congress again. Plain and simple.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:07 PM
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:35 PM
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23. What I say to that is..
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 06:33 AM
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29. They really don't
give a damn about us. They have labeled the 97% as expendable. But I am here to say we matter!!! We are important!!!We are not whipped yet!!!!And we can win!!!!We can win!!!!!We will WIN!!!!!!!!!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 09:20 PM
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36. What suggestions do you have ...
for the seemingly brain dead people who don't seem to get that they are just using them,even though I see in some cases many are happy to be used..
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:36 AM
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11. It won't matter to them
Considering that > 50% of Congresscritters are
Millionaires, plus they have manifold opportunities to suckle at the corporate teat, their piddly little $170 K means little to them.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:34 PM
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13. Kicked&Recommended!
:kick:
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:54 PM
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16. Well if it means so little
They won't miss half of their 170,000. How bout that??? My daddy used to say you can't miss what you can't measure. And it is time that we stop running and take a stand and put them on the defense. attack all their wittle public benefits that are provided for them due to taxpayers. everyone of them are not rich. they wanted to know why their Health care didn't kick in until Feb. 1,2011, oh they will try to keep their money you can bet on that. And please believe you think it won't matter because no one has went after their shit. Once you start fucking with their stuff I bet you will hear some noise.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:38 PM
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14. Get those government workers (representitives) off the government teet!
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:06 PM
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18. Lets do what they have done
Change their income status. we need to make it clear we will not take NO for an answer. This can be done no matter what the naysayers say. Believe and put forth some action. We must be pro-active in this fight. Fuck laying down and letting them win. We must stand up and demand that they are give up part of their wages like so many other Americans. And when they complain tell them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and be more efficient and stop wasteful spending and don't rent or buy more house than they can afford!!!!Sound Familiar????
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:52 PM
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26. Agreed. Strip away those expensive health care plans and MAKE THEM CONTRIBUTE!
Make THEM find an insurer on their own.

All out total WAR!
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:07 PM
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27. This is our Time
They are protesting everywhere. Now we need to create some noise. Time to go after their money. I did learn one thing during the Health care fight,before the fight no Congressmen would really work. But when we started fighting together those motherf--krs had to show up and actually work. I remember seeing Congressmen on laptops,sleeping,Hell dick Cheney was known for catching a snooze. No if anything they will have to fight to keep what it is they have. Yes it is our turn to attack from all sides. And I say next lets get their banks.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:21 PM
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21. and who do we petition to get those Congressional pay curbs? Congress
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 01:21 PM by librechik
and they will close their ears to any nonsense like you propose. (it's not nonsense to me, BTW)
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:46 PM
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25. The public
If 97% of America makes 60,000 dollars or less,we talk to them.Look we have been emailing and trying to counteract every repug trick in the book. It is time for them to do a little running. See all the things they love they still have access to, time to limit government. They should be happy. I mean that is their meme. No this is what they want then we should give it to them. Do you think Rand Paul and all the other Freshmen who made it in are willing to give up anything?? Hell they were mad because their Health care subsidy wouldn't kick in until Feb.1. Nope I think they may have second thoughts,this is only one thing to do, I have all sorts of public remedies( I'll let Sharon Angle keep the Second Amemndment remedy, since she is so fond of it.) that unity can make results happen.TOMBStone
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:40 PM
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24. One of the first things this average American family does when money gets tight...
is to write big checks and send them out to various wealthy people. We certainly don't want any of them to suffer needlessly. After all, they are not "average", and shouldn't be treated as such.

Now, we have been told that doing the above is actually good for us. We will be rewarded in numerous ways.

And, since the Republicans are in charge, we are expecting our windfall any day now.


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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:55 PM
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28. Is that the Family
dubya was talking about that is middle class, you know the ones who earn one to five million dollars. Funny they just released a report that millionaires only believe they are rich if they have at least seven million or better.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 06:38 AM
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30. Where do you come up with the average pay at $60,000
I know a lot of people and I'd say that the majority don't even get close to 60,000 bucks a year.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 07:03 AM
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31. This is true.
But according to the search engines out of over 300 million people the average income is between 58,000 and 60,000 dollars. I took the high end to make a point. If you don't make sixty thousand dollars at your place of employment, then how do you view 170,000 and subsidized Health care,with trips,parties,and campaign war chest contributions that could total millions (Evan Bayh) and walk away wealthier while the rest of us are being depleted of our very lives and the lives of the ones we love. If you need a link I will provide one. I am having a hard time with this new pc learning all its functions. So I am having trouble carrying links over. Working on it now. Some make it and some don't. lol but i do pretty good with two fingers lol
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 07:46 AM
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32. No link is necessary for me, I just don't know many of those making that kind of money
Off topic: When I bought my first computer, 1989, I decided that instead of pecking with a couple fingers I'd force myself to type. At first I wanted to do the pecking thing but after a short period the typing that I learned in high school started coming back to me. If the computer hasn't done anything else for me one thing it has done is made me an old man who can type somewhat now and improved my spelling tremendously. I still don't know proper sentence structuring and all that but maybe with enough time I'll learn that too.

Have a good day
Peace.
:hi:
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 01:19 PM
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34. I know
Edited on Thu Mar-17-11 01:20 PM by mstinamotorcity
a few people who make decent wages. But since 2001 the number has become fewer. some of my close friends have had it so hard they died with the State paying for the funeral. This shit is crazy when you can't even provide a casket for a loved one. One of my friends lost an infant, the state put her in a cloth covered Styrofoam casket. Yes it looked like one of those two dollar coolers from Family Dollar. They were putting her casket in the hearse and the top blew off. Man I started crying all over again. Because of the humiliating situation that this country leaders have put the population in I have no type of sympathy for those wittle Congressmen.

Most people have given or gave up. Not me. I may be the last one standing but I don't care.If I must be alone in how I think,I don't care. If my breath were to end today,I will go down fighting for those who are weary,lonely,hungry,without,shelter,without love. No republicans don't own my intentions or thought or deed. I will be singing the song of my brothers and sisters as long as I have a voice. No the fight is just getting started. And I plan to win. A true warrior, does not see or think defeat. Thanks for listening.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 07:53 AM
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33. Does it have anything to do with tax breaks for bondage bars or
bail-outs for Exxon and BP?
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 01:56 PM
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35. It has everything
to do with wearing diapers, to accepting half a million dollars as a couple that you did not claim because the check was issued to your wife( Hello Mr. and Mrs. Clarence Thomas). It has everything to to with every under handed, sleazy,corrupt-able,Hellish, thing that repugs have perpetrated on the good citizens of OUR Country!!!!! You say Exxon, I say Enron. There is no difference.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:52 AM
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37. kick
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