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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:24 PM
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At California Nuclear Plant, Emergency Response Plans Don't Include Earthquakes

As the world's attention remains focused on the nuclear calamity unfolding in Japan, American nuclear regulators and industry lobbyists have been offering assurances that plants in the United States are designed to withstand major earthquakes.

But the emergency plan for the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant on the California coast, which sits less than a mile from an offshore fault line, does not include a ready response for an accident triggered by an earthquake. Though experts warned from the beginning that the plant would be vulnerable to an earthquake, asserting 25 years ago that it required an emergency plan as a condition of its license, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission fought against making such a provision mandatory as it allowed the facility to be built.

Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/california-nuclear-emergency-response_n_836751.html

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:24 PM
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1. "At California"
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:26 PM
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2. I heard this morning that this is true for pretty much most of our
nuclear plants.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:00 PM
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17. and Cooper on CNN makes it sound like everything is just ducky in the US...
regarding nuclear safety - it's that Japanese Gubmermint that isn't being transparent.

he sure gives a lot of slack to the corporation that is not relaying the right info to the government.

when shit goes wrong, blame the government - and save the corporate tush. Right on, Anderson. As always you are consistent in this.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:26 PM
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3. Wow they have their heads in the sand
There shouldn't be any nuke plants in a place vulnerable to earthquakes.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:36 PM
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4. If one of the main pumps failed after an earthquake, ...
... how would the emergency response differ than if that same failure was caused by an electrical or mechanical issue not caused by an earthquake?
 
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:45 PM
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6. Don't know without looking at the plan
Does it go into detail if emergency equipment/crews need to get there along the 2 lane curvy road and that road is destroyed by either the earthquake or a tsunami?
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:14 PM
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11. Good point.
What is the emergency plan if the road is closed due to flooding caused by extended heavy rainfall? Where is their emergency plan for a multi-vehicle accident on the road caused by fog preventing anyone from getting through?
 
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:46 PM
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14. That seems to be the objection, as I read the article
There are plans for a whole host of different events, but none of them have a corollary version for event + earthquake. The assumption apparently being that, because the plant facilities are expected to weather a quake, there's no reason to expect that one of the planned-for events will happen to coincide with a region-crippling seismic event. Seems like a silly assumption to me, but perhaps the response plans to various events are only based on local resources and are so redundant that external connections aren't considered vital.

Still, I'd think that proper emergency response planning would include contingencies for all sorts of complications - like if the warehouse with all the spare parts collapsed or burned up, or if all the cranes fell over the bluff or something...
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:37 PM
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5. Draft Diablo Great Earthquake Plan Released
Transcribed from the original Japanese where it was copied from.

1. Yell, "We're Fucked"
2. Bend over
3. Kiss Your Ass goodbye

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:45 PM
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7. That's the new draft. The original simply said:
It can't happen here.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 07:56 PM
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16. Apparently we didn't get the new script up here

Still saying "unlikely" here up north for Columbia Generating Station (shhh, if we don't use Nuclear in the name, maybe no one will notice).
Oh wait, that's the part about dams failing upstream.

Putting earthquakes and dams together, "Wright admitted he did not know the dams' "design basis" for the maximum earthquake each could absorb without breaching."

And yeah, we're part of the ring of fire.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x653404
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:48 PM
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8. Seems to me locations for nuclear power plants
are chosen on the basis of let's play chicken.

:wtf:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:02 PM
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9. Love THIS Part...
Back when the California plant was being finalized in the mid-1980s, local activists and environmental lawyers sued the Nuclear Regulatory Commission in an effort to slow the project, arguing that the clear risks from earthquakes nearby required additional planning.

The case made its way to the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., where a 5-4 majority -- including current Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and former Clinton independent counsel Kenneth Starr -- ruled that earthquakes did not have to be included in the plant's emergency response plans.


Same article.

:wtf:

:banghead:

:kick: & Rec !!!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:03 PM
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10. Diablo Canyon was built by PG&E.
I was just talking with an engineering friend this morning about Diablo Canyon. He has all kinds of inside info on the place. I thought Rand had built it, but he said PG&E did it because they thought they could pull it off. And it doesn't sound like they were fully capable, from the sound of what this guy knows. I can find out more, if I pursue it. I'd love to hear more about just what transpired before and during the project.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:28 PM
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12. K&R
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:29 PM
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13. Many years ago we asked
since we are downwind... lets just say our plans were done with the UNAM and Laguna Verde personnel.

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 07:36 PM
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15. The Diablo Canyon reactors produce...
25% of the power used in northern CA.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:01 PM
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18. What. The. F@#$.
:wtf:

:grr:

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:02 PM
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19. Can you point us toward a copy of the Emergency Response Plan...
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 08:04 PM by SidDithers
I'd like to confirm that it doesn't have earthquakes in it. I don't trust anything out of Huffpo.

Sid
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:43 PM
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20. Are you asking the OP or the author of the article?
Here's the author's email: kirkham@huffingtonpost.com
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