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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:21 AM
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"iPod Patriot Act” New Law Puts Wiretaps Into Every Computer Suspected Of Downloading
http://my.firedoglake.com/marinara/2011/03/17/ipod-patriot-act-new-law-puts-wiretaps-into-every-computer-suspected-of-downloading/

"The White house Copyright Czar proposed new law, that would allow corporations to dump a list of internet users into the justice department for the justice department to wiretap.
I call it the IPOD patriot act.

arstechnica.com says The Czar in question:
“Victoria Espinel, the Obama administration’s IP Enforcement Coordinator”
http://arst.ch/ol2
http://arst.ch/olz

Read the Czar’s press release:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/ip_white_paper.pdf page 10.

Right now corporations are forced to use civil suits to protect their copyrighted content. These trials are expensive for the copyright holders, and also don’t often contain the kind of proof that a wiretap can contain. These corporations cannot request the government wiretap your computer. This will change in months, as soon as the law is passed.

In my mind, it will allow “point and click” proscecution. As a download is detected, a cybercop automatically places a wiretap on the suspects computer, and in due time, as the suspect commits an illegal act, that user is sent off with a felony conviction. This is the intent of the new law. The intent of the law is to make it trivially easy to convict downloaders in federal court, with solid computer records of downloading....................."

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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:24 AM
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1. I was so hoping to see an Onion link.
I am just appalled.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:25 AM
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2. I think I might be on my way out. This makes what Bush did look tame.
PB
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:25 AM
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3. I just cannot believe that we're using the government to envorce civil law....corporatocracy at its
finest.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:31 AM
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6. Exactly. Isn't this what intellectual property law (or some form of it) is for?
This is just bullshit. How else can they spy on us?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:44 AM
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10. They want it to be a fucking felony!
That means you could steal a few movies, and you'd lose you right to vote. That's absolutely insane!
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:27 AM
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4. OMG /nt
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:28 AM
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5. and the hits just keep on coming
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:41 AM
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7. Steal a couple movies = lose your right to vote?
Felony = lose your right to vote in many jurisdictions.

Basically, they are saying that the internet equivalent of sneaking into a movie should cause you not to vote, cost you thousands of dollars, and maybe even jail time.

And with streaming? You'd be a repeat offender if you've watching an illegal stream more than once, which most normal people do all the time!

They are saying that stealing cable should result in a loss of your right to vote!

These people are fucking insane!

And yet, a guy who admittedly ordered torture walks free.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #7
28. having enough flowers to smoke
makes you lose your right to vote too.
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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
51. makes sense, you may be voting based on stolen ideas
from the media you took

cant have that
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:41 AM
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8. But leave the bankers alone for they are gods
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. And President's who order torture, illegal detention, and extraordinary rendition.
These fuckers must be brought down now. Information must flow freely.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. I think we need to "move forward" on minor copyright violations!
What do you think?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #12
24. I think when the people in power show the rest that it is okay
to lie, cheat, kill, torture, etc. they send a message that laws do not matter and
it is okay for everyone to do those things. The hate in this country starts from the top
and trickles down to the masses. I blame the PTB for the problems in this country.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #8
68. OH! Don't even think it!!
thinking it will be a felony in a few years.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:45 AM
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11. scammers? spammers? virus designers?
Why not start with something every user suffers?

OK, well I goofed by asking that question ................
An IPOD involves a large corporation and there is a lobbyist (or two) behind it.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. That's just the catchphrase, they mean every computer!
And they'll take your right to vote away for the internet equivalent of sneaking into a movie!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:47 AM
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14. Obama has Bush's cabinet. Or worse, in some respects.
Obama's Energy Sec. just announced he wants to build more nuclear plants, and now this.

This is not what I worked and voted for, Barack. Kinda hard to believe.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:30 AM
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26. classy.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:37 AM
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29. So is putting people in jail for sneaking into the movies on the internet.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 10:38 AM by originalpckelly
And taking away their right to vote.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. Kinda depends on who runs against him.
The Jersey Mafia guy with the bad comb-over? Naw. Bernie Sanders I might consider.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #14
45. wow, the hate just rushes at one
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #45
69. You seem to intellectualize emotion.
It doesn't work that way, no matter how hard you manipulate it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:47 AM
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15. And we'll have the softwae to defeat this bullshit faster than they can shit
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:51 AM
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16. Yay!! Chains we can believe in!!!
:grr:

Hope you've had enough change...I know I've had about as much as I can take...
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. Can't prosecute Bush, can prosecute people who steal movies...
and take their right to vote away.

Bush = right to vote
Person who sneaks into the movies on the internet = no right to vote in many jurisdictions
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #18
31. As the Wise Old Deep Throat once advised: "Follow the money."
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. Yup. I got fooled by Clinton, thought Obama was different...
Now I know better...Won't be fooled again..
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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #33
57. fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.....you cant get fooled again
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 02:10 PM by Bardley
as they say
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #16
66. LOL!!! x 1000 n/t
.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:53 AM
Response to Original message
17. The Current Occupant
like the last one, is serving one thing: the interests of those who bought and paid for him.

This is beyond outrageous, and I don't use these sorts of digital media.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:01 AM
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21. The better to help the corporations.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:12 AM
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23. Corporations are using the government to fight their battles...
of course there's not a damn thing to do about it because they are getting exactly what they paid for with their election money.

Nothing to see here...move along.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:25 AM
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25. As a regular downloader, I actually read the attached pdf file
and it doesn't say that.
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #25
30. I agree, I read the document and it just doesn't say what FDL claims it does.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. IT clearly states it will seek to prosecute individuals downloading files...
illegally or even just streaming them as felons.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #25
34. here are the relevant sections from the white paper issued by the Obama administration
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 11:08 AM by stockholmer

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Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances.

Give DHS Authority to Share Information with Rightholders Pre-Seizure to Help Determine Whether Products Are Infringing or Devices Are Circumvention Devices:

Obtaining the assistance of rightholders pre-seizure to help determine whether goods are infringing is important. Rightholders know their products better than anyone else and, thus, obtaining their assistance allows DHS, particularly its component CBP, to more effectively identify and combat infringing products.

There are concerns, however, that sharing unredacted samples of products and its packing with a rightholder pre-seizure would violate the Trade Secrets Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1905. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS with express authority to share such information pre-seizure.

The Administration recommends legislation giving DHS that authority, with any appropriate safeguards for importers importing legitimate products.
Similarly, it is illegal to import or traffic in devices that can be used to circumvent technological measures that control access to copyrighted works. When DHS discovers the importation of a potential circumvention device, current law does not authorize DHS to share a sample with a rightholder to aid CBP in determining whether it is, in fact, a circumvention device. Allowing DHS to provide a sample would aid enforcement efforts. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS with that authority and the Administration recommends legislation giving DHS that authority.


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Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress amend 18 U.S.C. § 2516 to give law enforcement authority to seek a wiretap for criminal copyright and trademark offenses.

Enhance Information Sharing About Enforcement Activity

Ordinarily, DHS is able to inform rightholders after infringing goods have been seized, which can help rightholders to enforce their own rights, including bringing a civil suit, if appropriate. The Administration has identified two areas in which DHS is not expressly authorized to share information post-seizure.

Give DHS Authority to Share Information with Rightholders About Seizures and Exclusions Pursuant to an ITC Order: Under 19 U.S.C. § 1337, the ITC investigates allegations regarding unfair importation practices, including those involving intellectual property infringement. Once the ITC finds a violation and issues an order barring the importation of infringing goods, DHS, through its component CBP, is responsible for enforcing that order at the border.

DHS currently lacks express authority to notify rightholders that goods have been excluded or seized under an ITC order. Giving rightholders that information will aid them in combating infringement. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS with authority to share this information.

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Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress give DHS authority to notify rightholders that infringing goods have been excluded or seized pursuant to an ITC order.


Give DHS Express Authority to Share Information with Rightholders About Circumvention Devices: After DHS has seized a circumvention device, current law does not expressly give DHS authority to share that information with rightholders or to provide a sample of the device.

Allowing DHS to provide both, however, would assist rightholders in protecting their copyrighted work by, among other possibilities: (1) allowing them to alter the technological control to render the circumvention devices ineffective; (2) assisting them in investigating infringement of their intellectual property rights; and (3) assisting them in bringing civil actions to enforce their intellectual property rights. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS and its components with authority to share such information
and samples, which is what DHS already does for trademark and copyright seizures.


Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress authorize DHS to inform rightholders when circumvention devices are seized and to provide samples of such devices (subject to any DHS bond-ing requirement).


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and this little extra tidbit at the end..................


Public Performance Right for Sound Recordings

Ensure Copyright Owners Are Entitled to Compensation When Radio Stations Play Their Works: Historically, in the U.S., there has been no right of public performance for sound recordings transmitted by over-the-air broadcast stations.

The absence of such a right puts U.S. copyright owners at a disadvantage internationally. They are not permitted to collect overseas royalties because they are not granted rights in the U.S. The U.S. stands alone among industrialized nations in not recognizing a public performance right in sound recordings.
The Administration recommends legislation giving sound recording owners that right.

Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress create a right of public performance for sound recordings transmitted by over-the-air broadcast stations.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #34
49. The way you've quoted from the document is somewhat misleading
The recommendation that you quote at the top of your post actually appears after a pargraph (not quoted by you) explaining that recommendation. The paragraphs that you quote relating to the recommendations relating to DHS seizure authority have nothing to do with the streaming issue and are followed by a separate "Recommendation" that you don't quote. Same thing with your next section. The recommendation you quote is from the end of the section addressing "Providing Enforcement Agencies the Tools They Need to Discover and Combat Infringement" and follows a discussion of the wiretap issue that you have omitted. The rest of the language that follows the "Recommended" line in your post is from a completely separate section of the report entitled "Enhance Information Sharing About Enforcement Activity." The recommendation that you lead off the third section of your post is actually part of the discussion above your dotted lines.

You probably didn't mean for your edits to convey a misleading impression, but that's what it does.

For those who want to read the actual document (its only 17 pages, including the introduction/summary, you can access it here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/ip_white_paper.pdf
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #49
60. fixed in this post, I did bollocks it up in terms of section breaks, haste makes waste and all that
The Administration recommends three legislative changes to give enforcement agencies the tools they need to combat infringement:

1. Clarify that, in appropriate circumstances, infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony;

2. Authorize DHS, and its component U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), to share pre-seizure information about, and samples of, products and devices with rightholders to help DHS to determine whether the products are infringing or the devices are circumvention devices; and

3. Give law enforcement authority to seek a wiretap for criminal copyright and trademark offenses.


The Administration recommends two legislative changes to allow DHS to share information about enforcement activities with rightholders:

1. Give DHS authority to notify rightholders that infringing goods have been excluded or seized pursuant to a U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) order; and

2. Give DHS authority to share information about, and samples of, circumvention devices with rightholders post-seizure.
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Increase in the Offense Level for Recidivist Intellectual Property Offenders:

U.S. Sentencing Guideline Section 2B5.3 does not currently provide an enhancement to a defendant who committed a second or subsequent intellectual property offense, even though Congress has doubled the statutory maximum for recidivist intellectual property offenders. See, e.g., 18 U.S.C. §§ 2319(b)(2),(c)(2),(d)(3),(d)(4) (doubling the statutory maxima for recidivist copyright offenses); 18 U.S.C. § 2320(a)(1) (doubling the statutory maximum for recidivist trademark offenses). Some other Guideline provisions take recidivist conduct into account when calculating the offense level. See USSG § 2N2.1(b)(1) (four-level enhancement for a conviction under 21 U.S.C. § 331 if the defendant had a previous conviction under that section); see also USSG §§ 2D1.1(a)(1),(a)(3) (increased base offense level where, among other factors, the defendant committed the offense “after one or more prior convictions for a similar offense”); § 2L1.1(b)(3) (enhancements for smuggling, transporting, or harboring aliens when the defendant had previous immigration convictions); § 2L2.1(b)(4) (similar); § 2L2.2(b)(2) (similar), § 4B1.5 (increased offense level for repeat sex offenders).1 To appropriately increase the punishment for recidivist intellectual property offenders, we recommend that Congress direct the U.S. Sentencing Commission to consider imposing a two-level enhancement when a defendant has a previous intellectual property conviction (either under Federal or state law, whether the conviction was a misdemeanor or a felony, and regardless of the type of the previous intellectual property offense).

Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress direct the U.S. Sentencing Commission to consider providing a two-level enhancement for defendants with a previous conviction for an intellectual property offense.

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Ensure Felony Penalties for Infringement By Streaming and by Means of Other New Technology:

It is imperative that our laws account for changes in technology used by infringers. One recent technological change is the illegal streaming of content. Existing law provides felony penalties for willful copyright infringement, but felony penalties are predicated on the defendant either illegally reproducing or distributing the copyrighted work.2 Questions have arisen about whether streaming constitutes the distribution of copyrighted works (and thereby is a felony) and/or performance of those works (and thereby is a not a felony). These questions have impaired the criminal enforcement of copyright laws. To ensure that Federal copyright law keeps pace with infringers, and to ensure that DOJ and U.S. law enforcement agencies are able to effectively combat infringement involving new technology, the Administration recommends that Congress clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances.

Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances.

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Give DHS Authority to Share Information with Rightholders Pre-Seizure to Help Determine Whether Products Are Infringing or Devices Are Circumvention Devices:

Obtaining the assistance of rightholders pre-seizure to help determine whether goods are infringing is important. Rightholders know their products better than anyone else and, thus, obtaining their assistance allows DHS, particularly its component CBP, to more effectively identify and combat infringing products. There are concerns, however, that sharing unredacted samples of products and its packing with a rightholder pre-seizure would violate the Trade Secrets Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1905.

In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS with express authority to share such information pre-seizure. The Administration recommends legislation giving DHS that authority, with any appropriate safeguards for importers importing legitimate products.
Similarly, it is illegal to import or traffic in devices that can be used to circumvent technological measures that control access to copyrighted works. When DHS discovers the importation of a potential circumvention device, current law does not authorize DHS to share a sample with a rightholder to aid CBP in determining whether it is, in fact, a circumvention device. Allowing DHS to provide a sample would aid enforcement efforts. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS with that authority and the Administration recommends legislation giving DHS that authority.


Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress authorize DHS to: (1) share informa-tion about, or unredacted samples of, products and/or their packaging with rightholders pre-seizure to aid in determining whether goods are infringing (subject to any bonding requirement and any appropriate safeguards for importers of legitimate products); and (2) share samples of potential circumvention devices pre-seizure to aid in determining whether they are, in fact, circumvention devices (subject to any bonding requirement).


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Give Wiretap Authority for Criminal Copyright and Trademark Offenses:

The Joint Strategic Plan committed Federal agencies to identify gaps in current intellectual property laws and ways that the U.S. Government could enhance enforcement. One such gap involves wiretapping authority (that is, authority to intercept wire, electronic, and/or oral communications). Title 18, United States Code, Section 2516 contains an extensive list of offenses for which the U.S. Government is authorized to seek wiretap authority from a court to obtain evidence of those offenses, including for economic espionage (18 U.S.C. § 1831) and theft of trade secrets (18 U.S.C. § 1832). See 18 U.S.C. § 2516(1)(a) (listing offenses under chapter 90). Omitted from this list are criminal copyright (17 U.S.C. § 506(a)(1), 18 U.S.C. § 2319) and criminal trademark offenses (18 U.S.C. § 2320). Wiretap authority for these intellectual property crimes, subject to the existing legal protections that apply to wiretaps for other types of crimes, would assist U.S. law enforcement agencies to effectively investigate those offenses, including targeting organized crime and the leaders and organizers of criminal enterprises.


Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress amend 18 U.S.C. § 2516 to give law enforcement authority to seek a wiretap for criminal copyright and trademark offenses.


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Enhance Information Sharing About Enforcement Activity
Ordinarily, DHS is able to inform rightholders after infringing goods have been seized, which can help rightholders to enforce their own rights, including bringing a civil suit, if appropriate. The Administration has identified two areas in which DHS is not expressly authorized to share information post-seizure.


Give DHS Authority to Share Information with Rightholders About Seizures and Exclusions Pursuant to an ITC Order:

Under 19 U.S.C. § 1337, the ITC investigates allegations regarding unfair importation practices, including those involving intellectual property infringement. Once the ITC finds a violation and issues an order barring the importation of infringing goods, DHS, through its component CBP, is responsible for enforcing that order at the border. DHS currently lacks express authority to notify rightholders that goods have been excluded or seized under an ITC order. Giving rightholders that information will aid them in combating infringement. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS with authority to share this information.


Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress give DHS authority to notify righthold-ers that infringing goods have been excluded or seized pursuant to an ITC order.

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Give DHS Express Authority to Share Information with Rightholders About Circumvention Devices:

After DHS has seized a circumvention device, current law does not expressly give DHS authority to share that information with rightholders or to provide a sample of the device. Allowing DHS to provide both, however, would assist rightholders in protecting their copyrighted work by, among other possibilities: (1) allowing them to alter the technological control to render the circumvention devices ineffective; (2) assisting them in investigating infringement of their intellectual property rights; and (3) assisting them in bringing civil actions to enforce their intellectual property rights. In the Joint Strategic Plan, the Administration committed to providing DHS and its components with authority to share such information
and samples, which is what DHS already does for trademark and copyright seizures.


Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress authorize DHS to inform rightholders when circumvention devices are seized and to provide samples of such devices (subject to any DHS bond-ing requirement).

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And the last one (not related to the others, but will have a large impact as now, if this goes through, the big US multinationls will start trying to take non-US citizens and firms to court, and the same for foreign firms with US citizens and US firms).




Public Performance Right for Sound Recordings

Ensure Copyright Owners Are Entitled to Compensation When Radio Stations Play Their Works:


Historically, in the U.S., there has been no right of public performance for sound recordings transmitted by over-the-air broadcast stations. The absence of such a right puts U.S. copyright owners at a disadvantage internationally. They are not permitted to collect overseas royalties because they are not granted rights in the U.S. The U.S. stands alone among industrialized nations in not recognizing a public performance right in sound recordings. The Administration recommends legislation giving sound recording owners that right.


Recommendation: The Administration recommends that Congress create a right of public performance for sound recordings transmitted by over-the-air broadcast stations.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. thanks. I figured it was something like that.
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octothorpe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #25
38. Same here, I also read the pdf...
It's a dirty trick to see who is the most interested in the thing, that way they know whose connection to tap. :P

I interpreted as mostly targeting the "big guys" who infringe on copyrights. I also didn't get anything from it that said companies can request wiretaps, but rather that the government could consult with IP holders at the governments discretion.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. Who are the "big guys" ? n/t
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octothorpe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 06:49 PM
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77. Anyone over 6'5 and 220lbs...
Actually, I re-read it and it seemed like most of was referencing organized crime groups who profit off the distribution of pirated goods, and the people who actually 'crack'/compromise protection schemes. However, I did notice that it mentioned copyright infringements over $1,000 in a 180-day timespan. Which really isn't that much, and it moves away from the "big guys" as I first interpreted it. I'm curious as to what other more intelligent people than myself have to say about it.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:36 AM
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27. winning the future
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:06 AM
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35. Fire Dog Lake: automatic unrecommend n/t
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:11 AM
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36. so even with the official White House document attached, you choose to ignore? hmmmmm
:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:29 AM
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:03 PM
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39. Who else is tired of the democratic white house's shit?
The elite want to continue to step on the throats of the poor and working class Americans.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:57 PM
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50. because the sale of counterfeit drugs over the internet is good for the poor and working class?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:41 PM
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43. Someone else can report this story.
If Fire Dog Lake does it, it gets an automatic unrecommend.

If every story was judged on it's own merit, there is little incentive for a news source not to lie, because if they do, the worst that happens is that one story gets unrecommended, and they can always try again.

Automatic unrecommend is intended to give a news source to tell the truth every time, because the damage to themselves will extend beyond the one story.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:37 PM
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42. Same here. This is more FDL PUMA Pravda hate-mongering. See Reply 41.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 12:42 PM by ClarkUSA
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:05 PM
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Societies, when closing down...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:05 PM
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40. Societies, when closing down...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:34 PM
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41. FDL bullshit. Anti-IP enforcement group "Public Knowledge... called the document a positive step."
Radio: Radio stations currently pay cash to songwriters for the music they play, but the stations don't have to pay the actual bands who recorded the material. That's because the US lacks a public performance right for recorded music played by radio stations, unlike most other nations (a situation which means that most other countries won't pay US artists, either, until we pay their artists).

Espinel suggests the creation of public performance rights for music on the radio, which the US already has for satellite broadcasting and webcasting. But the broadcasting lobby has opposed the move ferociously, claiming that its unique exemption from payment is because radio has such promotional force for artists.

<snip>

The list largely avoids big controversies—Web censorship, "three strikes" rules—in favor of a focus on health, safety, and serious criminal activity. Even Public Knowledge, a group not known for its embrace of increased IP enforcement, called the document a positive step.

"The recommendations largely address important areas of intellectual property enforcement that are often overlooked in more contentious debates at the edges of these issues," said president Gigi Sohn. "While there may be room for disagreement on specific methods of implementation, Victoria Espinel has compiled a thoughtful list of targeted recommendations for enforcement."


http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/obama-ip-czar-wants-felony-charges-for-illegal-web-streaming.ars
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:37 PM
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46. Thank you - There seems to be some extreme spin on this story by FDL

It appears that FDL did a fair degree of 'imagineering' while reviewing the White Paper.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:03 PM
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65. lol! Yes, FDL is known for their "truthiness." I like your description, too.
"imagineering" :rofl:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:01 PM
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52. From the link YOU posted:
Streaming: The government wants to make sure that, as online piracy moves increasingly to streaming, the law keeps up with the activity. Currently, "reproducing" and "distributing" copyrighted works are felony charges, and they cover peer-to-peer file-sharing. But streaming seems more like a "public performance"—and holding a public performance without a proper license is not a felony.

As Espinel's paper notes, "questions have arisen" about this distinction, and those questions "have impaired the criminal enforcement of copyright laws." She wants Congress to "clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances."

Wiretaps: The FBI and other federal agencies can tap phones and Internet connections for a whole host of serious crimes, but criminal copyright and trademark cases are not among them. Espinel wants to change this situation.

"Wiretap authority for these intellectual property crimes, subject to the existing legal protections that apply to wiretaps for other types of crimes, would assist US law enforcement agencies to effectively investigate those offenses, including targeting organized crime and the leaders and organizers of criminal enterprises," says the new whitepaper.


Um.. that seems to say exactly what the OP posted. Your comment about how "Public Knowledge" thinks it's a good idea has no bearing on the facts.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:54 PM
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63. See Replies 38 and 60.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 04:05 PM by ClarkUSA
Reply 38: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=680252&mesg_id=681502
Reply 60: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=680252&mesg_id=683296

An honest reading of the White House .pdf disproves FDL's typical anti-Obama bullshit. Replies 25 and 30 are notwworthy, too, because they also read through the .pdf before jumping on FDL's bandwagon.

I also trust Public Knowledge's take on this document. They have no reason to lie, unlike the forever-bitter PUMAs over at FDL.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:39 PM
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72. THIS right here is corporate propaganda
intellectual property enforcement can kiss my motherfucking ass! it's like putting a copyright on a thought. this is nothing more than pro-corporate rabid capitalist propaganda. EOM.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:38 PM
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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:55 PM
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48. at the very top of the slippery slope, were the DUI checkpoints
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 01:56 PM by Bardley
that so many thought were 'harmless'

you dont have something to hide, do you?
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:07 PM
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61. the slope is quite slippery - New York man faces five years in jail for ‘linking’ to online videos
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/10/new-york-man-faces-five-years-in-jail-for-linking-to-online-videos/

"You may want to think twice the next time you share a link to your favorite video.

In a case against a New York website owner, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is claiming that merely linking to copyrighted material is a crime.

DHS, along with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), seized Brian McCarthy's domain, channelsurfing.net, in late January. The site has now been replaced with a government warning: "This domain has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Investigations, Special Agent in Charge, New York Office."

"It is unlawful to reproduce copyrighted material, such as movies, music, software or games, without authorization... First-time offenders convicted of a criminal felony copyright law will face up to five years in federal prison, restitution, forfeiture and fine."

The advocacy group Demand Progress has claimed that McCarthy never reproduced copyrighted material, and that his website simply linked to other sites.

A criminal complaint obtained by the group seems to acknowledge that agents knew that McCarthy was running a "linking website."

"Based on my participation in the investigation leading to the February 2011 Seizure, I know that Channelsurfing.net was a 'linking' website," special agent Daniel Brazier wrote in the complaint...................................."



http://demandprogress.org/

BREAKING: The government is arresting people for linking! http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/dhscomplaint/?source=front

WHOA: In a huge shift for US Internet policy, the government is now trying to throw Bryan McCarthy in jail for simply linking to copyrighted documents. We've got the official legal complaint and it's very clear — Bryan McCarthy is under arrest for running a "linking" website. Nobody had ever gotten in trouble for just linking before — let alone been arrested for it. It's crucial we work fast to push back against this big new powergrab.

SIGN NOW: Share a YouTube Video? Go to Jail.
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/channelsurfing/?source=front
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:03 PM
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53. There are actually movies and music still being made that are really worth "illegally" downloading?
Mostly craporate crapitalist crap nowadays, IMO.

Blech!!


Must be just for the thrill of getting nothing worthwhile for nothing?


:shrug:
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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:04 PM
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54. downloading is stealing without a license
and only bankers get those
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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:06 PM
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55. same white house that gave a trillion in free money to wall street with no strings attached
wants to put a spy on a kid's computer so that they can watch every move and set up felony traps

have to admit, it IS 'Change'
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:21 PM
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59. Good point n/t
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:08 PM
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56. So then put the computer in jail if you must
After all, it's the computer doing the downloading.
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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:12 PM
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58. In the late 1980s, Joe Biden was one of the WORST 'War on Drugs' hacks
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 02:13 PM by Bardley
i never, ever forgot that

super-draconian sentences just coincidently at the same time as the burgeoning private prison industry ;)

a man capable of putting people in prison for profit is capable of doing it again
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:01 PM
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64. People change. Biden recently apologized for his past stance.
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:06 PM
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67. Civil Disobedience! There's not enough jails
Everyone start downloading. Clog the court system with these cases.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:13 PM
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70. I better get to work downloading those movies and music I've always wanted.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:36 PM
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71. I hope people challenge this shit at every turn - take every case to trial - expose the corporate
greed and hatred for the American people. They fucking HATE us - they only love our $$$. If this becomes law I hope everyone caught up in it will fight back against corporate power - and fight for the right to share songs and movies and information - as long as you are not making a financial profit from them.

Capitalism is killing this country and turning citizen against citizen and corporations against us all.




Problems of Capitalism -- (From: http://www.altruists.org/ideas/economics/problems/capitalism

What is wrong with the idea of capitalism?
--It is based on a psychological model which is fundamentally flawed. It has disrupted traditional patterns of human interaction, bringing material and spiritual poverty by devastating precious indigenous cultures and ecosystems. Traditional, ways of life are replaced by a debased monoculture, controlled by an unsustainable money system which rewards those who plundering the natural environment, giving them an unsustainable material prosperity. A veneer of wellbeing covers terrible psychological and social damage.

What problems does capitalism create?
--Capitalism has brought about a society of unfortunate victims of consumerism. Overconsumption stems from individuals’ frustration and is fuelled by organisations’ greed. Encouraging people to behave as individual consumptive units erodes the social fabric, damages relationships and fuelling the worldwide growth of depression.

How does capitalism create problems?
--Under capitalism, the profit motive is supreme. Mathematics replace morality in the sense that profitable activity thrives and all other activity is supressed. Problems arise from activities which are financially productive but socially destructive. Love is fundamental to human welfare and yet, because it leads to activity such as sharing, caring and giving away, it runs counter to economic ‘progress’, so those activities which promote love are discouraged, while those which discourage it are promoted. Inadvertantly perhaps, the capitalist system rewards selfishness but punishes altruism."

more: http://www.altruists.org/ideas/economics/problems/capitalism
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:42 PM
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73. Are the unions behind this like they are COICA?
OH FUCK I DIDN'T JUST GO THERE. HAHA, what have I done? :P
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:50 PM
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74. You ever notice how
when you defraud/steal from a corporation, they use the criminal courts to really fuck your life over, but when they defraud/steal from a human, you have no recourse unless you have an assload of your own cash to lawyer up and sue them in civil court? And no jail time, probation, or anything is ever dispensed to the human working for the corporation who made the decision to behave criminally. Funny, that.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:53 PM
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75. Priorities-while the world is in turmoil
nothing is more important than prosecuting those evil DVD pirates-it is a matter of national security. Well they better build more jails and hire more cops to enforce these important laws.

This law is pure harassment, it is only an excuse to do more surveillance!! There is no other reason to pass such a law at a time like this, it must be in the fine print.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 08:09 AM
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76. You know what? I'm starting to think Obama is a fucking fascist.
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 08:12 AM by loudsue
He was the president of the Harvard Law Review, for cryin' out loud. Which part of "unlawful search and seizure" did he not quite understand? This issue of holding back Atty. General Holder on prosecuting crimes against this country's citizens (war crimes, etc) is one thing; reauthorizing patriot act shit is a second thing; taking sides against Manning in the Wikileaks release with no trial is another thing; and now THIS???? Talk about police state! Talk about supporting your corporate masters!!! He's jumped the shark with me.
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