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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:29 PM
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Bomb Found In Federal Building In Detroit

The local news here just said that a package containing explosive materials was found at the Federal Building here in Detroit.

The news also said that it could have injured or possibly killed someone if the package had been opened.


Not much else for details yet. I am including a link which contains some similar information but it seems to be out of date compared to the ten o'clock news.


http://www.freep.com/article/20110318/NEWS01/110318053/1318/BLOG2401/Detroit-Police-detonate-suspicious-box-found-federal-building-?odyssey=mod_sectionstories




Since the building houses offices for the FBI, DEA, Customs and Immigration (among others) I think most of us here will jump to the same conclusion. I know what my knee jerk response is, but since we don't have any evidence yet I would ask that we restrain ourselves from leveling unfounded accusations.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:31 PM
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1. unfounded my ass. for the past several decades, 90% of the time it's a rightwing nut.
the other 10, it's just a nut nut.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:37 PM
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16. There are many right-wing nuts in Michigan, sorry to say eom
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:37 AM
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19. There's also
a lot of those dirty brown skinned Shiara lovin moslems there too. I betcha they did it:sarcasm:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:32 PM
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2. :(
Hope there aren't more sitting around.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:32 PM
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3. My question is how would a bomb get into what we would assume is a very
secure building?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:33 PM
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4. I'm assuming a mail bomb?
Good question though. They'll catch the culprit I bet.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:42 PM
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6. It seems to be a metal coin box in a nylon bag
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 09:58 PM by Motown_Johnny
and from what I gather it may have been outside the secure area (but that is a guess) as if in the lobby or something.

The news also mentioned that they are reviewing video surveillance footage so I am guessing they may catch this guy (assuming it is a guy).




Again, this is all very new and we don't have good details yet.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:44 PM
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8. Sorry for not reading the article before commenting. Thanks for the clarification.
:hi:

(I did just read the article, it was a metal box so probably not beyond the secure area.)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:34 PM
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5. I'll jump to a conclusion
If the person apprehended for this is of a non-white skin color, it will be grounds for hysterical overreaction. If the person apprehended is white, it will be another isolated incident, in a series of isolated incidents.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:43 PM
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7. that is a reasonable assessment based on prior performance
hardly jumping to a conclusion.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:47 PM
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10. I agree with Motown_Johnny. nt
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:44 PM
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9. Here's a link to a video from WXYZ:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:56 PM
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11. thanks
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:48 PM
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12. This could be a black flag op
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 10:58 PM by Doctor_J
Snyder might be wanting to try out his new powers. This is an opportunity for him to put Detroit under martial law and gauge public opinion.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:02 PM
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13. gauge public opinion?
Like how big will the riots be?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:25 AM
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17. Do you think he had those laws passed for fun?
Why would he be given power to impose Martial law if he didn't intend to invoke it at some point?
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:33 AM
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20. I think we know what the reaction in Detroit would be
I expect him to test this in a much smaller and weaker community to set precedent before making any larger moves.


I also believe part of the reason he wants this is to create the equivalent of gerrymandering within local governments. Gerrymandered to benefit Republicans.




IMO the moment McCain/Palin failed in 2008 was the moment they had to pull out of Michigan. Once these electoral votes were gone there was no viable path to victory for them. I also believe that Michigan Republicans were devastated by that pull out. It seriously injured their party in that cycle.

I think this is as much about sort term consolidation of political power as it is about long term establishment of the Plutocracy.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:06 PM
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14. Would not be surprised.
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Zanzoobar Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:14 PM
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15. Tell me you're not serious
You think it's possible that the governor of Michigan conspired in a plot to blow up a federal building? At least conspired in a terrorist plot?

Really. L.O.L.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:29 AM
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18. Of course not
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 10:44 AM by Doctor_J
But no lives were lost, or injuries sustained. Don't you think its a little coincidental that a week after the governor is given power to impose Martial Law in case of emergency, a bomb scare occurs is a broken, destitute city under his purview?

Edit: By the way, you seem deeply offended by the suggestion that Snyder would engage in terrorism. Yet he signed a law giving him powers to impose Martial Law, and is engaged in breaking teacher unions and destroying public education. One man's belt-tightening is another's terrorism.
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Zanzoobar Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 04:36 PM
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21. Yes. I think it is coincidental.
Apparently you do not. You consider it a possible plot.

Regarding the definition of terrorism. I am not offended, and you were not suggesting Snyder was engaging in economic terrorism. You were leaning toward the more conventional description of terrorism which involves inciting mass hysteria by way of deadly munitions, or some such.

As an aside, anyone might use the term terrorism in any context. Instead of road rage, we could use Turnpike Terrorism. Instead of schoolyard bullying, we could use Teenage Terrorism. After all, those events do elicit terror of a sort.

I just don't think it adds anything to normalize the usage. Even the phrase "economic terrorism" smacks of hyperbole. I don't consider republicans evil. I consider them stupid and misguided. The same goes for a great deal of politicians of all orientations.
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