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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:23 AM
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Mt. Fujiyama rumbling, last rumbled in 1707



Japan that has not managed to recover after the first blow of natural disasters ( earthquakes and tsunamis) is risking to be overtaken by a new misery resulting from these disasters. Japanese Seismic Service has reported of a threat of its symbol, Fujiyama volcano’s eruption. The reasons for these assessments are recent 5-6 magnitude earthquakes on the volcano. The last time the volcano erupted was in 1707 when a new crater appeared on it and Tokyo streets ( named do at the time) were covered with 15 sm ash. Eruption of the national symbol will completely " smash" Japan which has just 2 days to stave off nuclear explosion at APS Fukushima affected by tsunami. So far Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) has increased the danger degree at wrecking Automatic power station Fukushima -1 till the 5th level out of 7 possible ones. International Atomic Energy Agency(IAEA) already considers wreckage at Japanese APS Fukushima-Daiichi the most serious one
since Chernobyl catastrophe of 1986. Japanese government has already asked the USA for technical assistance to push aside wreckage on APS built under General Electric technology. At present it has been officially affirmed that another 6.200 people have become victims of Japanese earthquake on 11 March. Nearly 10.200 people are considered missing.

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this is from an email alert from rsoe.com
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:24 AM
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1. Oh jeez. Enough!
Thankie for the info.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:48 PM
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28. +10000
Enough indeed!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:25 PM
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29. +1001
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:25 AM
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2. Please don't anyone mention the, um, Super Moon
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 09:28 AM by SpiralHawk
It's very upsetting for, um, some.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:27 AM
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3. O.o
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 09:33 AM by Lucinda
:spank:

Niiice pic btw! Hey where did the moon pic go!?
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 02:50 PM
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26. Yes, because obviously the Supermoon ONLY AFFECTS JAPAN.
The Mighty Supermoon is SO powerful that it's affecting the EARTH'S TECTONICS...but only on the (relatively) tiny island of Japan. Somehow all of that yanking and jerking that the SOOOOOPERmoon is doing to the Earth's crust is ONLY manifesting on one tiny little part of it. You'd think that a force so powerful that it can cause earthquakes from 238855 miles away might affect the WHOLE Earth and not just one small part of it...but you'd be WRONG, bwahahahaha! The Supermoon is FUCKING NINJA like that.

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:28 AM
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4. Subduction zone volcanos have a tendency to do that after a quake in the same zone.
Happened in 1707.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:39 AM
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5. No fair!
Ok maybe we really should consider evacuating and relocating people to safer locations?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:57 AM
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8. Not so easy to relocate 35 million people, I'm thinking.
Not in Japan, anyhow. We don't seem able to remember what happened 50 years ago, much less over 300 years ago. We live today and ignore the lessons of the past most of the time. If Mt. Fuji erupts, it erupts. There are no real preparations that can be made for that. Those who build and live under a volcano assume some pretty large risks.
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:21 AM
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12. If 70 countries shelter half a million people temporarily
We just might pull this off.


Yeah, I know...I can dream, can't I? Poor, poor Japan! :cry:
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:23 AM
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13. LOL
We couldn't evacuate New Orleans with plenty of notice of impending doom from a hurricane. All it would have taken was enough transport vehicles on an interstate system with a short trip of 50 to 75 miles.

Japan has a far larger population and is an island.

I understand your sentiment and how it is placed. The proposition of such is not easily pulled off and our track record of evacuation is not that grand in recent history. Hell a 4 inch snowfall in DC area this year created 12 hour drive times for people just trying to get home from work. Some were still trying to get home when the morning rush was starting.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:42 AM
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6. I am recommending this under protest!! Japan has suffered enough!
Please make this not be true, please make this not be true, please make this not be true.....






(small sob)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:54 AM
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7. Mt. Fuji could easily erupt, and will at some time.
It's a volcano fed by the subduction of the Pacific Plate under the Eurasian and Philippine Plates. The subduction causes heating under the plate, which creates new magma pools that can feed new and existing volcanoes. Fuji hasn't erupted for three hundred years, but that doesn't mean that an eruption isn't possible, and these quakes under it may indicate a reawakening. They may also indicate nothing at all.

People were very surprised when Mt. Lassen in California erupted violently between 1914 and 1917. We've forgotten that now, and the area has increased dramatically in population since then. It could erupt again, but nobody pays much attention, other than a few vulcanologists. Then there's Mt. St. Helens, which surprised most people with its dramatic eruption not so long ago.

So, yes, Mt. Fuji could erupt. In fact it almost certainly will erupt again...sometime. It shouldn't come as a surprise. Volcanic regions don't just go inactive, unless the subduction zone stops, and that won't happen.

Science is good. It helps us understand what was once beyond understanding. The pity is that we ignore it and are surprised when things happen.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:05 AM
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9. There was a 6.2 quake in the area on the 15th
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:15 AM
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10. If you look at the earthquake activity in and around Japan over
time, there's pretty much an earthquake all the time there. Earthquakes at 6.0 and under don't even get covered in the news, except locally. They're so frequent that even the Japanese pretty much ignore them. That area is one of the most seismically active zones on the planet. That's because of the triple-junction of the Eurasian, Philippine and Pacific plates. The Pacific plate is moving generally westward, and diving under the other two plates. The actual junction is just offshore from Japan and forms one of the deep ocean trenches in the Pacific.

Subduction zones like that one are always very active, generating a constant stream of earthquakes and, occasionally, a huge quake, like the one that recently occurred. So, a 6.0 in the vicinity of Mt. Fuji isn't all that unusual, really. It may indicate some activity under the volcano, or it may not. It's difficult to say. However, Mt. Fuji is certainly capable of erupting - no question about that. It's very difficult to predict far in advance when that might happen, though, but it will be signaled by a increase in the number of shallower earthquakes centered around the volcano, and will probably be predicted quite some time before it actually erupts. Like other major volcanoes, it's under constant monitoring, so there will be information well in advance of its eruption. Vulcanology has advanced a great deal, and Mt. Fuji, like other potentially deadly volcanoes, is heavily instrumented and monitored.

Even so, with Tokyo's enormous population, even good advance warning will probably be of little use. It's too large to be evacuated, since there's really no place for the 30+ million people living in that metro area to go.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:19 AM
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11. Just like I perdicted...
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 10:20 AM by Baclava




now I remember why I remember Fuji being mentioned...


Friday's quake is the strongest earthquake in recorded history to hit Japan, according to U.S. Geologic Survey records. The previous record was an 8.6-magnitude earthquake that struck near the Chubu Region near southwestern Honshu on October 28, 1707, that may have killed 5,000 people, CNN meteorologist Sean Morris said.

That quake generated a 33-foot (10-meter) tsunami wave, and some scientists believe the quake may have triggered the eruption of Mount Fuji 49 days later..

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:24 AM
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14. The CNN link you had there didn't work (said story was out of date). This link works:
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:27 AM
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16. Thanks - I was looking for the DU link - I really did say to watch out for it
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 10:31 AM by Baclava
I mentioned it a couple of times in different threads and nobody even listened

Bow down, heathens

What's really spooky is NatGeo just did a show on 'When Earth Erupts' - they told all about Fuji

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:36 AM
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17. Here are links to your DU posts:
Your topic about this on March 15:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x651867

And reply 15 in this topic:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x656709


Found those via a Google search for

baclava "democratic underground" "mt fuji"



I hope Mt. Fuji won't erupt, but what that CNN article said about the last eruption being preceded by a similar quake and tsunami is alarming.

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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:42 AM
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20. Thank you kind Sir/Madam!
"I'm placing my money on Mt Fuji blowing up"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x656709


Yeah - kinda crude - but that's how us prophets are sometimes.

Call CNN
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 02:48 PM
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24. You're welcome! Thanks for posting about that CNN story -- I'd missed it earlier.
:hi:
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:47 PM
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27. So you admit my prophecy may be coming true, excellent!
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 01:47 PM by Baclava
Radioactive volcanic lava, my next perdiction



I have spoken
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:26 AM
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15. I am very curious
Could that massive quake have affected the volcano?
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:37 AM
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18. The last big quake in 1707 likely triggered Mt Fuji's last erupton
"The previous record was an 8.6-magnitude earthquake that struck near the Chubu Region near southwestern Honshu on October 28, 1707, that may have killed 5,000 people, CNN meteorologist Sean Morris said.

That quake generated a 33-foot (10-meter) tsunami wave, and some scientists believe the quake may have triggered the eruption of Mount Fuji 49 days later..."

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:43 AM
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21. Thanks
:hi:
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 02:43 PM
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23. You really are my most favorite posterist....always so cheery
:loveya:
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:38 AM
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19. See the CNN article I linked to in reply 14, which was quoted in the message that's a reply to.
The last eruption, centuries ago, was preceded by an earthquake of similar magnitude and a tsunami.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:44 AM
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22. Thanks
:hi:
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 02:49 PM
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25. You're welcome, Malaise!
:hi:
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isuphighyeah Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:43 PM
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30. Dear Buddha I hope not. n/t
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