They are taking subsidies away from the needy, when the super-rich are paying lowe taxes,

Cal33

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:20 AM
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They are taking subsidies away from the needy, when the super-rich are paying lowe taxes,

Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 10:22 AM by Cal33

and some of them escape from paying taxes altogether. In the link
below there are some charts worth looking at:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110316/ts_yblog_thelookout/chart-shows-low-tax-burden-for-rich;_ylt=AudMuGD6SQTvqZn0MBCZryJH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTQ1cDBhcDhnBGFzc2V0A3libG9nX3RoZWxvb2tvdXQvMjAxMTAzMTYvY2hhcnQtc2hvd3MtbG93LXRheC1idXJkZW4tZm9yLXJpY2gEY2NvZGUDbXBfZWNfOF8xMARjcG9zAzYEcG9zAzYEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNjaGFydHNob3dzbG8-

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Autumn

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:33 AM
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1. They "claim" the deficit must be lowered

if any of these "leaders", and I use the term loosely, were even remotely serious about the deficit the rich would pay more taxes, the military budget would be cut, the wars would be stopped. None of those things are being done, just cuts on the most vulnerable among us. Bunch of fucking hypocrites. It's war on the poor.

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Cal33

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Sat Mar-19-11 12:43 PM
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8. It looks as though we now can actually do something against these and other crooked practices

by joining a worldwide movement. Please read my thread: "I've just learned of
a worldwide movement going on that fights against evil banking abuses. Want to Join?"

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dkf

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:36 AM
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2. You see how this started in the '80s?

Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 10:37 AM by dkf

I bet the lower income tax rates increased because of the increase in Social Security taxes to create a "surplus". Then they could lower the taxes on the rich since all that extra money was coming in!

People will never realize how Social Security taxes were the instrument of the right. Even now in the face of ridiculous deficits they think it is safe because of the surplus but they already spent it subsidizing the rich.

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Cal33

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Sat Mar-19-11 02:00 PM
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9. It's very true. Right-wingers try to make it look like seniors

are being subsidized by tax-payers. Seniors are NOT being subsidized by
tax-payers. They are only getting back what they have been paying into
their retirement from the first day they began to work till the day they
retired.

We're getting back what we've been paying into all our working lives.
Unfortunately, some seniors don't know this.

As for the criminals who are profiting from this.... well, they are criminals!

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dkf

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Sat Mar-19-11 06:55 PM
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15. But you can never retax what has already escaped taxation.

Even if you raise taxes now, that isn't the crew that got away with it years ago. It's always a younger crowd that will make up what the older crowd got away with.

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Cal33

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Sun Mar-20-11 06:13 AM
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17. Would it be possible at all to go back into the records of a few years ago,

found out where they had cheated, and make them pay for the fraud with interest, and
perhaps with a date at court?

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bobbolink

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:41 AM
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3. Yet, there are no big calls to action, and isn't it interesting these draconian cuts aren't

a major focus of the "progressive" media?

Why is that?

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Cal33

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Sat Mar-19-11 03:15 PM
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10. There is a worldwide movement right now. Read my thread called

"I just learned of a worldwide movement going on to fight against evil banking abuses. Want to join?"
It started in UK 6 months ago. In the US it started in Calif. 2 weeks ago, but already 50 cities across
our nation are taking part. The link gives interesting info.

Finally, something against the worldwide money ogre is being done! It's a beginning. But we can all
do our part. Hope you read it and pass it along to all the people you know.

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bobbolink

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Sat Mar-19-11 08:58 PM
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16. that doesn't have to do with the cuts against poor people, does it?

Thank you for proving my point. :(

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xchrom

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:41 AM
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4. It's funny -- corporate welfare, trade, taxing the rich

Are never up for serious discussion.

The poor? Can't be discussed enough as long as the discussion involves
Taking away from them.

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Amonester

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:53 AM
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6. The question remains, what will be left to take away from the poor

once they'll have nothing left to be taken away from them?

Talk about a short term (and how morally corrupt) policy...

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Cal33

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Sat Mar-19-11 04:41 PM
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12. We learn from history that when people feel they have nothing

left, they don't mind so much risking death fighting for the chance to gain something.
This happened during many revolutions.

Greedy sociopaths don't know this, and they don't want to know it either. They don't
know when to stop. So, their inevitable end is self-destruct. It's a question of time.

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Turbineguy

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Sat Mar-19-11 10:51 AM
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5. That's why so many in the middle class support cuts

to programs for the poor.

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Autumn

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Sat Mar-19-11 11:10 AM
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7. They got theirs on the

backs of the poor.

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lonestarnot

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Sat Mar-19-11 03:18 PM
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11. Are you kidding or are you serious?

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Bozita

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Sat Mar-19-11 04:55 PM
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13. shared sacrifice toon ...

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LaPera

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Sat Mar-19-11 05:00 PM
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14. Here's a sick, greedy moronic republican bastard: "Cut taxes by 10% (more)� for the rich"

Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 05:03 PM by LaPera

This republican fucker either doesn't have a clue or is one selfish, insensitive, greedy, ignorant, non-caring, cold-hearted motherfucker!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/17/republican-tax-chairman-reduce-taxes-for-the-richest-americans/

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Sun Mar-20-11 06:58 AM
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18. "Sneer." - Republicon Fatcats (R)

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