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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:17 PM
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Poll question: Your specific reason for opposing Operation Odyssey Dawn?
What is your reason for opposing Operation Odyssey Dawn? You may have multiple reasons, but choose the reason that weighs most heavily in your mind.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:18 PM
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1. The LIBYANS requested the help, the Iraqis did not. Oh wait....
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revolutionnow45 Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:29 PM
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6. I know, WTF is wrong with people? They are trying to make liberals look like heartless assholes
'we can't afford to help them'....that is so pathetic I could scream.

The amount they are spending is nothing compared to the fraud and abuse by contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why don't these all of a sudden I care about the poor because of the war in Libya people go after the pentagon waste instead? hello? billion missing. 2.3 Trillion 'lost' by Rumsfeld.


Jesus, y'all think you are on the right side opposing helping people who were asking for help, who were just about to be slaughtered...I think Jesus would help establish a no fly zone to protect people.

what part of this don't you understand?




This is not the same as Iraq! We bombed them for the military industrial complex, Halliburton, Blackwater and to get Saddam back for W's daddy.

Geez what is wrong with people!!!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:47 PM
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9. "what part of this don't you understand?" Sadly, I understand it all too well.. ALL parts of it.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 08:55 PM by bobbolink
:cry:

Thank you so much for that picture... you'd think that would be PROOF!

I don't know any of these people, but I feel bonded with them. :cry:

We have much to learn from them!

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/incoming/article386489.ece/ALTERNATES/g3l/Libya+no+fly+zone.jpg

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 02:47 PM
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31. +rec
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 02:49 PM
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33. Who's making liberals look like heartless assholes?
I don't feel like a heartless asshole. I'm sorry, but until our government decides it should really tax the rich in order to keep teachers, cops, and firemen from being fired (I come from a family of teachers being royally screwed right now), along with folks from losing their homes, France and the UK are perfectly capable of handling this.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:17 PM
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2. The same reason I opposed the wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 08:17 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
And, all the other wars fought for "good" and "noble" reasons.

I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. Mohandas Gandhi




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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:19 PM
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3. As far as I am aware, It hasn't Dawned on anyone ...
WTF the Odyssey is.
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:31 PM
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14. Odyssey is the guy who, after spending ten years fighting
one war, spends another decade finding his way home and upon return discovers his wife (who thinks she is a widow) entertaining multiple suitors and
then proceeds to slaughter them all. Interestingly, his name means "trouble" in Greek, which is very fitting as that is the state he constantly either finds
himself in or causes on the others throughout the story. An even more fitting name for this mission would be "Operation Clusterfuck", but I assume that
was already taken.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:44 AM
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15. Interesting point. Very ironic name choice nt
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:23 PM
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4. Because it has a stupid name.
No, really - who knows who the rebels are... could be worse than the colonel.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:26 PM
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5. Operation OD? *snicker* Who dreamed that one up? Some PR toad in the White House?
sheesh

:eyes:
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:39 PM
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7. No. Lawrence O'Donnell explained it tonight. Link to video:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:46 PM
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8. Obama's doing great internationally. It's NOT a war
These freedom fighters were begging for us to protect them from slaughter. Don't listen to the fucking news people!

No troops, Arab League support, other states acting... A+ for Obama on this
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:51 PM
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10. "These freedom fighters were begging for us to protect them from slaughter."
:applause:

What part of this are "progressives" not getting?!

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:16 PM
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12. Just read that Chomsky
thinks is an epic fail. That worries me, he's always right.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:14 AM
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23. Thank GAWD he bombed!
" It's NOT a war"

:rofl:
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:02 PM
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11. I don't believe Military action should be used on another government unless they are a direct threat
Gaddafi is not a threat to us. This is a matter for the Libyans to deal with. We can provider weapons money ect.. but that's as far as I will support.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:24 PM
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13. War is not the right response, our military is already overextended, and
the Republicans are yelling that we're broke and are shredding what little social safety net we actually have. For that last reason especially it's galling that we're doing this.

(Also, "Odyssey Dawn" sounds like a country-singing Bratz doll.)
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:53 AM
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16. What is the right response, then?
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:56 AM
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17. sanctions, trade embargoes, coordinated international efforts
There are tons of options that really weren't tried before self-interested third-parties decided that bombing was the next step.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:11 AM
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20. And how will sanctions dislodge Qadaffi?
Did they work against Saddam? Did prohibiting conflict diamonds bring down governments in west Africa?

Dictators don't give a shit if there's no money to feed their people, as long as they have power. That's what makes them dictators.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:21 PM
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27. Why is it our job to dislodge him?
Should we also "dislodge" dictators in sub-Saharan Africa? Because there are lots of them. Should we "dislodge" Kim Jong Il? Or do we only "dislodge" dictators who threaten our oil supply?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:47 PM
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29. Yeah, we should
Do you think we should just let dictators continue to do whatever they want in defiance of basic human rights?
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 02:42 PM
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30. No, but you're skirting the issues I brought up earler.
Our military is overextended, we're failing our citizens at home (not to mention our veterans!) and there is no shortage -- and never will be any shortage -- of dictators and human rights violations anywhere in the world. The U.S. cannot be the world's police force. It simply isn't possible.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:33 PM
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34. you're applying different standards
There are plenty of dictators that your logic applies to but we're not bombing them
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:06 AM
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18. The mental masturbation makes me feel good
Support it. Oppose it. Support it! Oppose it! Support!! Oppose!! Support!!! Oppose!!!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:10 AM
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19. the "support" has 31%, the nine categories of disaproval share the 69%
but to the eye, it looks like the "support" category is winning.

Oh, my answer why I dont support it....too many to list. We're already in 3 other armed fights in the area, it's none of our business what Libya does, it doesnt affect/effect us, war is rarely the answer.....
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 11:26 AM
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26. Well the official news polls have 66% of Dems supporting the effort
I know DU is different but even on DU, support is just under 50%.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:12 AM
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21. other. I fear that it will solve nothing and lead to a lot of death.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:14 AM
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22. We were already in the process of losing two other wars...shortly, we will be losing three. nt
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:32 AM
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24. Too many wars and no idea what victory is or will be in any of them.
We seem to be able to start them and fight them. We just can't figure out how to end them.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:33 AM
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25. ..because it just sounds really fucking stupid..nothing about conquering, or kicking ass...
...:sarcasm:
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:35 PM
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28. Other
1) No vital US national interest
2) No defined achievable objective
3) Forces already stretched too thin

Bottom line: The benefit to be gained is not worth the risk to American lives.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 02:47 PM
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32. Are those against Odyssey
Homerphobic ?
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