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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:18 AM
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They're really scared aren't they?
The RW pundits and politicians are terrified Obama will actually succeed where Bush failed, in regard to armed intervention. They are talking him down on every network and you can hear the desperation in their voices. Republicans have always wanted to be seen as the "war party", and they can't let a democratic black man succeed where they failed.

If only Bush had been.............smart.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:20 AM
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1. Joe 'dead intern' is on a rant
why we can't intevene in Libya. Why didn't we intervene in 2002 in Sudan and blah, blah... duh, ask w.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:29 AM
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2. Don't be so hard on George, he was just a figurehead and puppet, doing as told.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:15 AM
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15. Can't believe he got close enough to steal 2000
First time I heard him speak I coldn't help but, wonder 'are they serious, the guy is dumber than a box of rocks.'

Look what happend. :crazy:
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:45 AM
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20. I can't believe people thought the elite oil nazi son was a good ole boy.
The problem is if enough voters get chumped , it makes it that much easier to twist the outcome.
I'm half expecting anytime a presidential election is anywhere close from now on, it'll be an automatic GOP win.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:10 PM
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21. O- H -I- O you're right. nt
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:11 PM
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25. Pet rocks were very popular at one time
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:32 AM
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3. Just more 'I'm a fan of R's,' all things D must be opposed.
Political rhetoric isn't even rhetorical anymore, it has become a boringly predictable farce playing to hysterical and/or drunken masses of lamebrains.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:39 AM
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4. Just a reflection on the whole system.
My guy is great your guy sucked. An I will readily admit that I fall into it constantly. Bush did suck and I root for Obama daily. But, reality sets in that anyone in that position has to make some legitimately awful decisions that will cost lives at the end of the day. If anything, it gives me more respect for people that I once considered enemies of the state.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:55 AM
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5. I Think Most Of Us Know If Obama Didn't Make A Move On Libya And There Was A Slaughter Of Innocent..
people by Ghaddafi - the same group that is criticizing him now for going into Libya would be criticizing him for not going in. Especially the media as that would probably make a better story for them.

Look - Obama is the President. He's on a tightrope all the time and any decision he makes he realizes he will have to take lumps for from somebody or some group.

Bottom line - in my mind is - he's a good and decent man and because of that I trust him to make the right decision for this country.

Will he make a mistake from time to time? Sure - he's human. Humans make mistakes. But for the most part I believe that he'll make more good decisions than bad ones.

With respect his Libya decision. I'm going to back his judgment on this one.
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Siouxmealso Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:09 AM
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6. Except that
1. He should have gone to congress in addition to the UN
2. He should have made the traditional announcement from the Oval office.

I was disappointed in Rachel that she tried to spin those things away as somehow unimportant because "this president is different." Yeah well, he should have done them because without those two things it seems like he's trying to get away with doing something he'd rather not be associated with.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:25 AM
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7. He gave a speech before the action began... wow.
and read the war powers act. He has acted appropriately.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:35 AM
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8. Got that straight from Fox News, right?
"He's getting UN approval but not the Congress... blah blah blah", all day long. Meanwhile, at the same time they complain that he took too long to bomb them. LOL
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:56 AM
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19. Even with a war declaration from congress
As congress is the branch that declares war, many people here still would disapprove.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:55 AM
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11. bs
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:36 AM
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9. What you just said was reflected on the morning network infotainment shows
It was McCain-O-Rama. The nasty, old fuck was on bitching about how the President was "too slow to act". He may have used the favorite new repug word of the day, "dithering", but I turned him off after about 45 seconds.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:36 AM
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18. me too- well said.
I believe this was a very difficult decision.
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:53 AM
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10. Obama will succeed in Libya? Maybe in some parallel universe
where our laws of nature and common sense are not valid. In this one? Highly unlikely.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:01 AM
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12. you base this on all his other failures?
He is pretty good at picking his battles in a figurative sense. Now we shall see if he is good at picking his battles in a literal sense.


I am betting he accomplishes enough to declare victory and get out. Victory has not been defined beyond saving civilian lives and he can already claim that has been achieved.
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:04 PM
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22. I base it on how successful all previous regime change/democracy installation
operations have been. There is no way he can declare victory with Gaddafi still in power
and there is no way he can remove him without full scale military invasion and occupation
of Libya. If history teaches us anything, it is that such an operation cannot be "successful"
in public's mind no matter how it turns out. Unless, of course, he can warp the fabric of our
universe and negate the natural laws with awesome power of his mind. Which he seems to think
he can do.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:02 AM
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13. There's nothing smart about this intervention.
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Travelman Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:57 AM
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14. Definitely not
Obama is President, and I will support our troops in their ordered duties as well as the President, but getting involved in this was complete folly, and I will not hesitate to say as much. Obama would have been far wiser to tell the UN to have fun with their no-fly zone, but we would have nothing to do with it.

Can someone tell me whose side we're on? Because so far, all I can tell is that we're bombing Libya in order to support someone who is ... not Qaddafi. Whoopie! They're not Qaddafi! Who are they? Hell, I don't know, but who cares? They're not Qaddafi! Hooray!



Not smart. Not smart at all.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:33 AM
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17. sometimes the "smart" thing isn't always the "right" thing.
Especially when it comes to important decisions.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:26 AM
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16. They're against for the same reason many Dems are for it: team spirit.
People treat politics like a piece of cheap entertainment with no connection to reality. Reverse the jerseys, and the people who are now booing would be cheering, and vice-versa.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:05 PM
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23. Lol, how can they be scared? Most of the right wing are in support of this war.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:08 PM
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24. Scared? Nah. They're just confused as to why a Democrat is giving them everything they want. nt
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