True or false: War is a human only phenomenon.

originalpckelly

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:28 AM
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Poll question: True or false: War is a human only phenomenon.

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Ian David

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:31 AM
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1. Jane Goodall Chimpanzees and War

Jane Goodall Chimpanzees and War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kuMS-EATs

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mcollins

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:49 AM
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11. Exactly.

I remember reading in National Geographic back in the 1980s about her research.

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Bigmack

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:32 AM
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2. I wish we had more bonobo in us... nt

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seabeyond

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:33 AM
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3. pack of wolves protecting territory? nt

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yesphan

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:36 AM
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5. Yep

and how they treat coyotes. Never a good outcome for the coyote.

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hfojvt

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:44 AM
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9. another species is even tougher on them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUq9hynzCVo

and what if the Kzin really exist?

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CrownPrinceBandar

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Tue Mar-22-11 12:18 PM
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17. Kzin were wimps.......

We'd just have to send a fleet of ladies against them and they wouldn't know what to do.

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pipi_k

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Tue Mar-22-11 11:58 AM
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14. Well, technically that wouldn't be called "war"

along the same lines as human war.

Wolves do not typically wage war on members of their own species like humans do.

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seabeyond

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Tue Mar-22-11 12:04 PM
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15. if another wolf encroached on territory or

if one alpha challenges another.... or, if there are too many alphas and gotta kick some out of the clan

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slackmaster

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:35 AM
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4. All of the other Great Apes do it

As do many other kinds of animals, and even plants.

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immoderate

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:37 AM
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6. Meerkats are a disciplined force.

And forget about ants!

--imm

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xchrom

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:38 AM
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7. lions vs hyenas

Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 09:47 AM by xchrom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBrWEoCLyI&feature=related

violence ahead

and even better one here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda4zULB3EA&NR=1

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Marr

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:39 AM
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8. Ants do it, too.

And chimps.

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stuntcat

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Tue Mar-22-11 09:48 AM
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10. the type of war that only humans have is

is our war against all the rest of the lifeforms on the planet. Gosh but we will beat the life out of this world, we'll show it what for, make it wish it never knew us!

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HopeHoops

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Tue Mar-22-11 10:51 AM
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12. Every spring there are a couple of days when the sidewalk is COVERED in ant colonies at war.

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JackRiddler

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Tue Mar-22-11 11:24 AM
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13. True or False: "Wars" in nature and modern wars are unrelated...

Posing organized conflicts in nature as a metaphor for wars of civilization is a common form of apology for the latter. The generals who plan, the politicians who approve, the warriors who kill (lately by mashing buttons at a CIA video-game console) are not monkeys. They are not giving involuntary expression to their monkey-nature.

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Tierra_y_Libertad

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Tue Mar-22-11 12:13 PM
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16. War is not a human condition.

For most people, throughout history, war is an aberration. Most people never experience war first hand. Wars are noted throughout history precisely because they are aberrations and therefore notable. If they were a part of the human condition we, all of humanity, would be constantly at war and wars would be no more newsworthy than having breakfast.

Making war a sort of unavoidable biological function is like saying we're all doomed to to be bank robbers or pianists because we have the nascent abilities necessary to perform those functions.

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