These embarrassing leaks have got to stop.

Though there is obviously government information which should remain secret, the "Cablegate" controversy apparently revolves around information which is harmless, but makes the US appear unseemly or not forthright.

Solution #1: Extradite Assange and charge him with crimes under the Espionage Act. Dedicate a CIA department to monitoring websites worldwide for leaked information. "Salt" confidential documents with identifying text so that a paper trail can be maintained, to help identify and prosecute leakers. Establish reciprocal agreements with foreign governments for extradition of maintainers of Wikileaks mirrors and imitators.

Solution #2: Stop doing shit that embarrasses us.

IMO #2 is more cost-effective.

Something the America govt can yet won't do.

it couldn't help but clean up our act.

The danger of something being leaked increases the risk/reward ratio of any proposed nefarious activity.

It makes me wonder how much of an advantage if any US companies have because of our clout and our war machine backing everything.

What happens when we aren't as dominant?

Who are you and what did you do with wtmusic?

I'm speaking on his behalf :D

THAT ....... the truth is not only physical
but a portion of what makes a human being real

I SAY PISS ON THE SYSTEM.

that our people are up to it.

There should be some kind of training program.

However should that get you to dumb them down to control them, or work to move in ideas of being able to think and feel on what is better.

Some like the dumb down option, it is easier, and has many rewards of power and control.

Some like the education, even if results are not always better, because it makes more sense for more people.


Reasons for war, for people to take what you have to help themselves, or people they feel need help.

Having the free will to think and feel, and decide how you live and act with best information and education is something some want to take, so they can have power over people. That comes sometimes from ideas that people can not learn to rule themselves and must be controlled, but if you have any bias for desire for control, the rationalization takes over, and the actions to do that are not best actions.

The 'Game theory' really helps with that, what is the win win for the most people, easy to be able to find once they are no longer your enemy, but someone who also needs something.

All things in moderation helps with many things. If production was local, and wealth not consolidated, then people would not go to war to take. If people were better educated with concepts of what most agree is better, people would not go to war to control, or those that did in those situations would be seen. Then to avoid any hardship, they would only need to share what they have or share what control they think they should have by freeing people from economic or thought hardship.

Remove your need to control people and have power, and ask if control really is for best interest of society. But for many best interest of society is not the goal, they just don't know that about themselves.

I don't want beer and travel money just to help people, but also for my own interest, I know that, but also know I try to be nice when around people. So try to find moderation in those things.


Side note, Actually I want to develop an online game, got some great ideas. But beer and travel money is a more abstract representation of choice and justice with compassion.

And a study site for journalism classes everywhere.

You can punish those who publish leaks all you want, but
as long as there are "leakers" there will be publishers.

Der Spiegel or any of the other newspapers that are actually publishing the leaks. The fact that Holder is threatening to invent new laws with which to charge Assange demonstrates that he is not guilty of any actual crimes.

I don't know what you mean by the information being "harmless," other than that nobody has been killed as a result of the leaks. American "diplomacy," such that it is has been harmed. Given the nature of our so-called "diplomacy" that is not a bad thing.

And we have done great harm around the world. Just because you are sitting here in your American cocoon does not make our actions around the world harmless. For example, Australian citizens are angry to be learning how we influenced their supposed democratic elections.

Likewise, just because the UN isn't saying much about the "embarrassing" revelations about the extent of our spying on them does NOT mean that our relationships are not damaged.

#2 is not only more cost-effective, if we actually stop going around trying to rule the world it will bring us greater long-term benefits. Don't hold your breath waiting for #2 to happen though. America is such an entitled bunch of obnoxious bullies I doubt we can understand how to stop doing things that are embarrassing, damaging and hateful.

I, like most people, have made injudicious comments that have gotten back to their subjects - and it stung. One can continue to make those kinds of comments and be careful who they're made to, only be friends with people you can trust to not say anything, etc. Much easier to avoid making them at all.

We may have done great harm around the world, but the world learning about it is only positive. That Australian citizens are angry is good, and will lead to reform. That American diplomacy has been shaken up is also good - we're going to have to earn back the trust of foreign diplomats, and it will come at a price. Ouch.