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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:35 AM
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James Dean Molested by Minister, Elizabeth Taylor Revealed
Source: Huffington Post

James Dean's short life is now known perhaps more in legend and lore than solid fact, but even he had a secret no one knew. Except for Elizabeth Taylor.

Kevin Sessums, writing for The Daily Beast, reveals that in a wide ranging interview with the just passed Taylor, the famed actress let him in on a secret about Dean that she had promised she'd keep forever. Sworn to secrecy until Taylor's death, Sessums revealed the hidden past of the Rebel Without a Cause.

"When Jimmy was 11 and his mother passed away, he began to be molested by his minister," Taylor said. "I think that haunted him the rest of his life. In fact, I know it did. We talked about it a lot. During 'Giant' we'd stay up nights and talk and talk, and that was one of the things he confessed to me."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/25/james-dean-molested-by-minister_n_840495.html



The truly sad thing is that you are probably as surprised by this as I am, i.e., not at all.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:35 AM
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1. Well, that undoubtedly explains a lot of Dean's choices later on.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 02:46 AM by Ken Burch
Perhaps that minister, in his own way, helped kill James Dean, by creating the perpetual need for escape that would compel a person to, for example, drive a car at insanely high speeds.

In memory of Dean's (until now)unknown suffering at the hands of that clerical monster, I'd like to post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwys2HoX5wI

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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:26 AM
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2. Dean did not die from driving at "insanely high speeds".
Another vehicle turned in front of him.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:36 AM
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3. My post was meant to express sympathy FOR Dean, ok?
n/t.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:50 AM
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4. Understood. But it would seem beneficial to his legacy to not exaggerate his death/actions.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:08 AM
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9. "Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." - James Dean
My own personal life motto.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:19 AM
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19. The post is correct. And Dean did love speeding. Had to do a PSA on it.
"Dean sought the counsel and friendship of Methodist pastor Rev. James DeWeerd. DeWeerd seemed to have had a formative influence upon Dean, especially upon his future interests in bullfighting, car racing, and the theater. According to Billy J. Harbin, "Dean had an intimate relationship with his pastor... which began in his senior year of high school and endured for many years."<6>"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:25 AM
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25. Dude;
Your post reads like 'It's not the fact your parachute did not open it's the sudden stop at the end.'

the probability of death and destruction caused as a vehicle's speed increases approaches infinity. This means that if you speed you have a greater propensity to kill or be killed when your rate of speed increases. So when Dean's car drove along at what police estimates rate at 'about 100 mph' he had a far greater chance of an accident had he been traveling at say half that rate. So speed does kill.

What you were expecting the old theory that people 'proved' that the railroad could never exceed 25 mph. At this speed they thought that all the air would be sucked out of the moving vehicle and the occupants would be asphyxiated.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:41 PM
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27. He was going about 60 mph. A car turned in front of him unexpectedly.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:41 AM
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5. Driving at "insanely high speeds" such as drag racing...
Was as common as dirt in the 50's. It was the cool thing to do at the time, like smoking. No one really knew how dangerous it was.
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:55 AM
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12. Maybe a lot more kids were abused than we thought
"Acting out" is, after all, one of the classic signs.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 06:46 AM
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16. More than who thought? Something like 1 in 6 adult males have been molested. Even more females
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 06:49 AM by No Elephants
have been.
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:09 PM
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29. Yes, we know that. Now.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:23 AM
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21. Dean knew how dangerous speeding was. He had done a PSA on that very subject.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 07:29 AM by No Elephants
I saw it played in some TV bio on Dean (E! Network maybe?)

IIRC, it was part of the sentence a judge gave Dean for one of the times Dean had been caught speeding. If so, that was on smart and then up to date judge.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:55 AM
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7. Actually, given his age and sudden fame James Dean seemed remarkedly mature.
For gawd sakes he was only 24 when he died.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:31 PM
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26. she had a lot of gay friends. she was a good woman all around
and accepting. I love her.

She wanted to marry Montgomery Clift but didn't know he was gay.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:55 AM
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6. Rumors of molestation by his minister have been around since at least 1992
See also Joe and Jay Hyams, James Dean: Little Boy Lost (1992), p.20, who present an account alleging Dean's molestation as a teenager by his early mentor DeWeerd and describe it as Dean's first homosexual encounter (although DeWeerd himself portrayed his relationship with Dean as a completely conventional one).


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/james-dean#ixzz1HhJAUGbf

Elizabeth Taylor gave instructions to remain mum on the subject until after her death, however, which lends credence.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:10 AM
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18. Billy Harbin (whoever he is) was another source.
Dean sought the counsel and friendship of Methodist pastor Rev. James DeWeerd. DeWeerd seemed to have had a formative influence upon Dean, especially upon his future interests in bullfighting, car racing, and the theater. According to Billy J. Harbin, "Dean had an intimate relationship with his pastor... which began in his senior year of high school and endured for many* years."<6>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean

*Inasmuch as Dean died at 24, it couldn't have been very many years.

I guess the news here is the source-- Elizabeth Taylor, who is known for her candor. (Burton supposedly said, "The woman never has an unexpressed thought.) And she cited Dean himself as her direct source.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:59 AM
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8. Did the public really need to know about this?
Some things are just better left unsaid...

:puke:
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:11 AM
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10. I'm of the philosophy that truth should be seen.
Even if it is strange and fucked up and turns your stomach.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:15 AM
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11. I'm thinking the same thing.
All the parties involved are, more than likely, dead by now. I just don't see any purpose in airing it all now.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:20 AM
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20. Really?
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:58 AM
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13. Molesters count on silence, and if his story helps one person break their silence
then yes, the public can deal with it.

Secrets fester. It's probably why he opened up to Liz - he needed to.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 06:08 AM
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15. Yes
All we can do is weep for those passed and knowing what they suffered stop others from suffering so.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 06:56 AM
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17. Knowing an iconic screen actor/heart throb was molested by his Methodist spiritual advisor
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 06:58 AM by No Elephants
and remained troubled about it until his untimely death has no possibility of helping anyone?
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vicarofrevelwood Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 06:00 AM
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14. Believe me he suffered on a level most,
of you don't understand. It Took me till I was 48 to figure out my own father was molested as a boy, What I was subject to while growing up was not pretty. Homo Phobia, constant questioning of my sexuality,and not politely, ("Are you a fag boy?") My own Homophobia wasn't overcome till I was in my 30's.(Thank you IB you were the best friend I ever had.) The pain and fear J.D. went through especially at that time must have been overwhelming. R.I.P. J.D.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:43 AM
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23. Pssst , people who have sex with children are pedophiles
regardless of which gender they or their victims are. Your post screams of either homophobia or rationalizing pedophelia...or both.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:57 AM
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24. There are some people who have places of "authority" that abuse that
"authority" on many occasions. Too often, we live in a sanitized version of the world, it may seem like it's better that way, some things we learn of turn our views upside down. It is important to bring things like this out into the open though, not as condemnation of the victims, but to find those that would prey on youngsters. Abusing a child is something that I cannot find any empathy for the abuser. Male, female, makes no difference to me...child abusers should be seen for what they are, predators among one of the weakest elements of our society, our children.

Most of these kids who are abused have yet to come to grips with their sexuality or gender identification, at 11, and after the trauma of losing a parent, Dean was "easy pickings" for an abuser. No child should have to go through that. Abusers rely on silence and coercion, they often threaten others...and when victims do speak up, too often they are not believed.

Dean had a promising career, I can't say this had had anything to do with his untimely death, but it had a lot to do with his life, sadly, far too many others live with every day...and their tormentors too often remain free.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:46 PM
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28. i use to cut HS class in bakersfield and drive to avala beach. we would go past the intersectionish
that dean got killed....

everyone was weary of that spot

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:30 PM
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30. This is well known among Jimmy's friends, family and a lot of fans
I wrote an article about it over a year ago. It's hardly a secret. Unfortunately, there are still a lot of Dean biographies out there that cast James DeWeerd (the molester)as Dean's "mentor and friend."
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