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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:12 PM
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Why does London riot so hard?
Molotov cocktails? Are they ****ing serious?

We only do that maybe once every 15 years like with Seattle.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:16 PM
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1. Isn't London an anarchist hotbed? They look for excuses to show up and wreak havoc.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:17 PM
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3. "look for excuses to show up and wreak havoc."
Not too familiar with just how bad it's gotten for the poor in the UK, are you?
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:21 PM
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7. I've followed pretty well, but even when things are bad in WI and the like, we don't smash things.nt
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:17 PM
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20. YET. -nt
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:22 PM
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26. Who gets fucked less? There is nothing noble about getting rolled with a stiff upper lip.
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:32 PM
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13. you mean with their free health care?
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:25 PM
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15. I am all too familiar with it. I just don't believe it's the poor who would be lobbing malotov bombs
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:17 PM
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4. That's what Faux said.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:26 PM
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16. How would I know what faux said? What are you implying?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:17 PM
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25. I said exactly what I said, and what I saw that Faux said. The same.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:25 AM
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27. What are you doing watching that crap?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:22 AM
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29. I brought a bit of reality to you, you have no idea what I watch, or what my life is, and it hits
close to home, so rather than give some thought to what you are preaching here, you attack me.

Again, thats very similar to the MO of the RW, isn't it? Don't actually address the issue... do a personal attack.

Great tactics for getting votes.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:44 AM
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30. What the hell are you talking about?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:17 PM
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2. The English have been practising since the Middle Ages, at least.
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:20 PM
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5. They're not afraid
It always seems as though Europeans are not as afraid to stand up to their governments as we are.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:28 PM
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11. "The government should be afraid of us, not us afraid of the government."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:10 PM
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:21 PM
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6. They have a long tradition
of protests and political dissent in general.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:22 PM
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8. How come Americans sit on their asses and get f**ked over so willingly?
nt


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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:27 PM
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9. +1
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:27 PM
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10. is indeed the more appropriate question. n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:30 PM
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12. Because too many people identify with the Ruling Class
The American myth of 'middle class' makes peeps think they're closer to their oppressors than the oppressed
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:34 PM
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14. Tories can't govern, though...
...without the cooperation of a lot of class traitors. And they have had #10 for more time than Labour -- nearly twice as much.

Go to a football fan forum, and you'll see why the Tories keep getting Commons majorities from the very people they screw over.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:14 PM
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18. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Squared
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:19 PM
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21. much more baffling, isn't it?
+1
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:51 AM
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31. Because the majority have been too comfortable.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:17 PM
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19. They are a violent society?
Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html#ixzz1HkLfmylf
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:46 PM
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23. Protip: The Daily Mail is a right-wing paper. And they're citing a study...
commissioned by the Tory party. The claims made don't hold up to scrutiny:

Chris Grayling, the shadow home secretary, found himself in trouble after the BBC reported that Tories had sent out leaflets in constituencies giving what police called an "extremely misleading" impression of rising violent crime. A leaflet produced by the office of Mark Lancaster, MP for Milton Keynes North East, claimed that violent attacks had increased in the constituency by 236%, from 1,790 to 6,015 a year, since 1999.

Nikki Ross, the local police commander, told the Milton Keynes Citizen that the claim was "extremely misleading" because "everything from public order offences to harassment to allowing a dog to be out of control in a public place" was classed as violent crime. "The actual number of people who were victims of serious violence was 81," Superintendant Ross said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/03/ukcrime-police


New figures released today have thrown an incendiary into the election debate on violent crime.

Analysis of hospital data for England and Wales, by academics at Cardiff University <191KB PDF>, shows there were 64,000 fewer violence-related attendances in emergency departments last year than in 2001 - a fall of just over 15%.

This contrasts with Conservative claims that violent crime has increased by 44% since 2002. It also appears to contradict Liberal Democrat analysis that hospital admissions for assault are rising.

The figures from the Cardiff study neatly track the downward trend in violence identified by the British Crime Survey (BCS), adding new weight to the argument that, for most people, England and Wales are less violent places than they were a decade ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/04/violent_crime_falling_says_new.html


And: if you won't use Fox News as a source, you shouldn't use the Daily Mail as a source.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:27 PM
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22. Since their police aren't armed, they don't need to worry about getting shot (nt)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:50 PM
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24. It's the old ultraviolent.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 05:51 PM by eShirl
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:36 AM
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28. Easy.
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 12:36 AM by SoCalDem
They do not fear losing health care/being fired for days off the job while they protest..

they are probably in a union of some sort, so their jobs are a bit safer

they are probably not in as much soul-crushing debt as many americans are

they have a tradition of striking, and doing it in large numbers

they have a parliamentary system that does not make them wait years for a miscreant's term to expire.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:52 AM
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32. They're more conscious of classwarfare than we are.
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