David Koch: Obama's father was a socialist, so there

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/03/26/david-koch-quote-o-the-day/

Wait a second, wasn't the father of the Koch bros. a racist and a conspiracy theorist?

Maybe Koch is on to something.

David's dad Fred founded the John Birch Society.

http://unknownjournal.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/%E2%96%BC-report-the-kochs-their-nazi-past-american-oil-the-foundation-of-republican-ideology/

Who the hell does Koch think he is, accusing someone else of being a political ideologue, when his filthy pedigree is full of them?

I don't know much more than that about old man Koch. The John Birch Society was founded by Robert Welch, whose views on American society were such that they could be characterized as racist and, as for conspiracy theories, he thought than anybody to the left of Attila the Hun was a Communist (including President Eisenhower) and that the fluoridation of drinking water was a communist plot.

The Birch Society were/are not Nazis. Neither were/are they democrats and were/are always among the first to assert that America is not a democracy.

It is less relevant what old man Koch believed or what Robert Welch believed as opposed to what Koch's sons believe. It is clear to me that they don't believe in democracy, but rather believe that corporate elites should have more influence than any one else, even to the extent that they should tell the rest of us to sit down and shut up. This twisted view of America combined with their private wealth and their willing to spend it on electing like-minded governors of every state in order to dismantle labor unions and shred the social safety net makes them very dangerous men.

As for old man Obama being a socialist, I don't know about that, either. Insofar as the Koch brothers appear to be influenced by their father's Birch Society gospel, I certainly wouldn't take their word for it or even assume they know what socialism really is. After all, was Eisenhower a Communist? Really, now? I don't know anything about old man Obama's political beliefs, but I do know that he had little influence on his son. In fact, the only influence he seems to have had on his son was being there for his conception.

Too bad his son is a capitalist.

:shrug:

The first man's father was a Nazi, and the second one's grandfather helped the Nazis. Therefore both Arnold and Georgie are Nazis.

Nazism with leaving Austria at a young age and emigrating to the US. That does not mean he was not influenced by it, of course.

Bush, OTOH, embraces all the same pro-fascist ideology that his granddaddy did, as is evidence by his own public policies - kind of difficult to argue against that.

when they said Arnold was a Nazi because his father was.

Koch Sr. couldn't get his business initially started here in the U.S., so he brought it over to the Soviet Union and began it there. Little did Stalin's many victims know their forced labor and early demise would lay the foundation for two American brothers' unbelievable riches decades later.

I'll need some evidence.

My parents were conservative republicans.

2 X's in his life and was raised by a Grandmother that was in the administration of a BANK, I'd say he had less of a socialist upbringing and more of a capitalist upbringing.



But why would Koch even go there? He knows HIS families history is out there for all to see.

If so, it's too bad his apple falls so far from the tree.

rub off on the son.