Let's play what if
cali
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Mon Mar-28-11 07:58 PM
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What if Khaddafi (or however you spell his name) is deposed/killed/exiled- in any case out of the picture. And let's say the rebels take over. And let's further say that the rebels decide to go after Khaddafi loyalists- or anyone else who opposes them. And let's say that the new government is just as oppresive as the old gov't, will the intervention have been worth it? I'm guessing that the above is every bit as possible- or more so- than any other scenario. To those of you who support this action, does this ever occur to you?
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:00 PM
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1. The only way to win "what if" is not to play. n/t
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:02 PM
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3. how can you possibly decide to support or oppose something like military
action if you don't examine the potential outcomes?
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:01 PM
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2. It will likely depend on the terms and pricing of the oil contracts.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:02 PM
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4. We already played that in Afghanistan.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:03 PM
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:03 PM
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5. That's, what? FIVE "what ifs" in a row?
What if I wait and see how things play out before I assume the worst? (crazy-talk, I know)
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:05 PM
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6. What if they follow the example of Mandela
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 08:06 PM by tabatha
and implement a Truth and Reconciliation Committee? What if they listen to Desmond Tutu, who supports this action? (If they were going to implement the same kind of system why put their lives on the line?)
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:07 PM
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8. that seems quite unlikely. S. Africa is not exactly the best comparison
there is little in common. And unexpected consequences happen regularly when a regime is overthrown.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:08 PM
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9. What is not in common?
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:10 PM
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11. There was no outside military intervention in South Africa
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:16 PM
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16. The Truth and Reconciliation Committe
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 08:17 PM by tabatha
was not about military or no intervention, and the TRC was about moving forward not looking backwards.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:21 PM
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17. yes, of course, but it was possible, I'd wager because of
what transpired. How they got there is important too. You see a T&R in Iraq? That's a much closer comparison- though not perfect.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:06 PM
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7. Not to worry. We'll just "intervene" again. It's been working so well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:09 PM
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10. You've got some good 'what ifs' going on there! k&r
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:11 PM
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12. Those aren't boy scouts we're supporting.
What about the large number of them that are reportedly fighting against Quaddafi because they think he's a Jew? Do we expect them to start laying down a Western-style Democracy and welcoming others outside their little group with open arms?
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:13 PM
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13. And suppose Kidd Cadaffy hooks up with Al Kidia? Den wha?
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:13 PM
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14. More will be killed and Libya more destroyed by the intervention.
There will be bigger grudges than if left internal and Gadaffi loyalists are at risk. We chose sides in a civil war and made one-sided rules of engagement. I did not support Gaddaffi when he became a partner in the War on Terror and do not support Gaddaffi now. But I do not support the bombing campaign either. The USA is in an awkward situation in many Nations of the Middle East and North Africa because of hypocracy of support and rhetoric.
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:16 PM
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what if the opposite happens....will it have been worth it? i don't support it but it's as easy to optimistic and it is to be pessimistic...what ifs go both ways
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Mon Mar-28-11 08:22 PM
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18. no, it 's not as easy. history has taught us that.
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