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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:27 PM
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Oldest human remains ever found unearthed in Israel (5999 years old....)
Oldest human remains ever found unearthed in Israel

JERUSALEM — Israeli archaeologists say they may have found the earliest evidence yet for the existence of modern humans.

A Tel Aviv University team excavating a cave in central Israel said Monday they found teeth that were about 400,000 years old. The earliest Homo sapiens remains found until now are half that old, and were discovered in Ethiopia.

Archaeologist Avi Gopher said Monday further research is needed to solidify the claim, which is detailed in the December edition of the American Journal of Physical Anthropology. If the claim is borne out, the discovery would change "the whole picture of evolution," he said.

Accepted scientific theory is that Homo sapiens originated in Africa and migrated outward about 80,000 years ago.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40820248/ns/technology_and_science-science/?ocid=twitter
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:29 PM
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1. That would have made a great Onion headline....
:rofl:
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:33 PM
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2. That's what I was expecting
when I clicked on the OP.

:evilgrin:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:34 PM
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3. "Gopher" is an AWESOME name for an archaeologist. n/t
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:38 PM
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4. Archaeologist Avi Gopher and his assistant, Bert Digger...
...lol.
Seriously, I love these guys and the work they do.
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Harry Hope Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:48 PM
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6. And their special assistant Ronnie Mole
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:51 PM
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7. lol
:)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:48 PM
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5. Was he/she Israeli or Palestinian?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:55 PM
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8. Who makes these stories up....Dr. Gopher.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:20 PM
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9. actually the oldest human remains found so far were 2.33 million years old
"Paleoanthropologists surveying a barren hillside in the Afar region of northern Ethiopia have discovered a 2.33 million-year-old upper jaw belonging to the genus Homo, pushing back the human timeline by more than 400,000 years. Within the same strata, researchers found more than 20 chert flakes and several "chopping tools," river cobbles chipped on two faces--the oldest stone tools ever found in association with hominid remains."
http://www.archaeology.org/9701/newsbriefs/homo.html
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:37 PM
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13. The article in the OP is talking about Homo sapiens or a close relative
Not just genus Homo in your link. The Afar region fossils were Homo habilis and Homo rudolfensis, older human ancestors than Homo sapiens or Neanderthals that are discussed in the link in the OP.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:39 PM
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14. I'm pointing out that the article's title, "Oldest human remains ever found unearthed in Israel," is
inaccurate.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:55 PM
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15. A lot of people do not categorize anything earlier than H. sapiens as human
So I don't have a problem with the wording in the title. It just depends on where the cut off point for defining "human". Heck, many don't categorize Neanderthals as "human" even though there is now evidence that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred and that many humans today carry Neanderthal genes. meaning that Neanderthals are just a branch of H. sapeins.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:57 PM
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17. And some don't even categorize many of their fellow homo sapiens as human.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 04:38 PM
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19. True! n/t
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:24 PM
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10. I don't see 5999 in the article, only 400k years?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:26 PM
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11. I think that was a joke about God supposedly creating Earth 6,000 years ago.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:27 PM
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12. Maybe the first circumcised one
:shrug:
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 03:56 PM
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16. Do I want to know ...
... how teeth revealed this?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 04:33 PM
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18. Sure. the fillings were made of stone instead of
lead. Owwww, sometimes I crack me up. :rofl:
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 11:52 PM
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20. If true this causes some problems for the mitochondrial DNA evidence
Which I think puts us through a bottle neck about 180,000 years ago. Hum?
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