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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 07:48 AM
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Thom Hartmann Video explains how deadly plutonium is "Just 1 oz can kill every person on the earth"
Fukushima has tons of it stored in reactor #3 alone

This video is a few days old, but still worth watching....I never heard of "MOX" but it isn't good and I am now off seaching for knowledge. Can someone shead some light on MOX here?

Nuclear radiation could spread far beyond Japan and Japan nuclear crisis spreads to third plant. Thom Hartmann speaks with Paul Gunter, Director of Reactor Oversight - Beyond Nuclear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXCsOflWsk
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 07:56 AM
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1. Don't tell Larry Kudlow
He'll see the "upside" -- zero unemployment.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:03 AM
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2. K & R!
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:22 AM
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3. So can one kitchen knife

If you sharpen it now and then.

Maybe one o' those Ginsu knives...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:37 AM
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5. So can nothing at all.
And it will.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:35 AM
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4. Give me the cliff notes. How can 1 oz kill every person on the earth?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:41 AM
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7. Every person on earth would have to ingest it.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:10 AM
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9. I couldn't even get my kid to eat broccoli. Good luck with the plutonium.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:38 AM
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6. 1 oz in a bomb couldn't kill everyone on Earth.
If you spread it out to cover the whole earth, then it will be so diluted that it won't harm anyone.

This is plain hysteria. You might be able to hurt individuals in an area, but not the entire Earth.

And don't listen to RT, it just couldn't be a worse news source.

You have to concentrate this stuff to make a nuclear weapon. It's insane to say such a small amount could harm everyone. Just insane.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:09 AM
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8. Mixed Oxide=MOX
MOX is sort of "reconditioned" nuclear fuel. You take a little uranium oxide, then mix it with the useful dregs from reprocessed fuel rods which contains a high proportion of plutonium and highly enriched U-235.

It is a favoured technology (by USA, France, UK etc) because it is one of the few ways of getting rid of Weapons grade Plutonium - other than waiting nThousand years (where n is in excess of 12,000).

Personally I think there is a better way, design fuel flasks that can be safely launched into orbit, they would be seriously heavy because they'd have to withstand re-entry and impact intact. Once the flasks are up there then kick them into a decaying solar orbit. Whole thing would v. expensive but you could get the CEOs of big companies to agree, at gunpoint.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:15 AM
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12. I've thought of that too
only the safely launched into orbit part is too dangerous. It's remains a risky business. But, have you considered a rail gun to launch them? The technology hasn't reached the level of getting something into orbit, but an international effort might get somewhere. And yes, gunpoint would be necessary.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:33 AM
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16. Yes MOX is byproduct of the war industry.
And a kind of desperate solution to the problem of getting rid of weapons grade plutonium.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 04:28 PM
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17. launched rockets sometomes malfunction and crash uncontrolled back to the ground
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:25 AM
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18. Self Delete
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 03:53 AM by intaglio
Can only say my hostility on Moodscope was too high
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:11 AM
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10. Life isn't safe...
The problem with saying "there is no safe level of radiation" is that implies that anything you do that exposes yourself
to more radiation "isn't safe". That we live in a binary world of 'safe' and 'not safe'. That eating a banana, which
contains some naturally radioactive potassium ( http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/natural.htm ), isn't safe. That flying
on an airplane, which exposes you to more cosmic radiation ( http://www.epa.gov/radtown/cosmic.html ), isn't safe.

This wouldn't be the first time Plutonium was spread around the globe. Atomic bomb testing is estimated to have released
3.5 tons of plutonium into the environment. The Chernobyl accident also released plutonium. Plutonium can still be found
in soil around the world from the past releases (the half-life of Pu-239 is 24,100 years).
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium_in_the_environment for more info.

Plutonium isn't good for you. You really shouldn't eat it or breathe it. The more that's released into the environment
the more cancers will likely occur in humans, but 1 oz won't be killing everyone on the planet.

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:13 AM
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11. you don't hve the right to mke these decisions for other human beings
we don't choose to be contaminated by your poisons. You choose to willfully contaminate us! Those who condone this are murderers. Monsters.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:25 AM
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14. Yes, but there are dangers in life that can be avoided........
Crossing the street is dangerous, but I can choose to cross when they're are no cars coming, thusly making it safer. I can also choose not to use MOX fuel in my reactors, which will necessarily lower the risk of exposure to Pu. Or, I can choose not to use nuclear power at all, thereby eliminating the risk altogether (I'm not suggesting that, I'm just saying its a choice). Life ain't safe is no justification.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:26 AM
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15. You speak like a child who can't let go of "mine mine mine!"
but the planet is NOT yours yours yours. It is OURS and we don't approve a an energy source that is so deadly. NOTHING you will say will change our mine that a for-profit energy company should have the right to destroy huge chunks of the planet so they can be rich.

Grow up and join the HUMAN race. Corporations do not love you, do not care about you and, believe me, they put profit above you.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:20 AM
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13. Everything I've found from scientists says Hartman is wrong...
http://atomicinsights.com/1995/05/how-deadly-plutonium.html

http://www.wipp.energy.gov/fctshts/plutonium.pdf

Of course, they are only scientists, and since they aren't speaking on global warming they must be prevaricating.
:sarcasm:

When someone makes a statement, even someone we respect, we should check it out. Google helps as do libraries.
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