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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:18 PM Original message |
Thought experiment: Would McCain have won in 2008 if he had chosen Lieberman as VP? |
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jzola (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. No! |
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Life Long Liberal (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, he looked like a grumpy old man and clueless. VP didn't matter much. But.... |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. no |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That's a good point. The LIE man would have alienated his base. nt |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. True, but where could they go? |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. who cares? let's look forward, not backward |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Edit--to move forward, one has to look backward. nt |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But, that isn't history. |
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Agent William (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. No. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Nobody likes Lieberman. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The voters of Connecticut? |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Not even the aliens on the planet that he came from |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. Pro-choice, pro-gay Lieberman? No. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. you forgot pro-war and still a resounding NO! |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah right |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. I can't believe that you would say such a thing on a progressive site. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. I think it would have helped with independents - but not that much with Jews |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Actually, exit polls showed that Lieberman got 65% of the Jewish vote in 2006 |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Sorry - I went by memory and should have checked |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. McCain lost with "The fundamentals of the economy are sound" after the collapse |
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MrTriumph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. Heavens no, the R base would have deserted the ticket. Hmm. Not a bad idea. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. NO. Most of the Jewish population in the U.S. are Democrats, and after what LIEberman had done in |
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ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. You're Ignoring The Reason Why McCain Was Forced To Take Palin To Begin With |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. mccain choose palin because he thought Hillary would win the Democratic nomination. The problem |
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ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The Palin Pick Came Within Days Of The Democratic Convention |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. +100 for last two sentences nt |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. Or Sarah could have had Joe's voice. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
23. no |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. I think this is really what sank McCain |
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ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. This Was One Of Many Factors That Cost Him At Least A Respectable Defeat |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. Closer, maybe |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. No. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Well, I think Lieberman did help Gore in the critical state of Florida, even |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I would disagree with your assessment. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Makes sense . . . you might be right. nt |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. No, but Al Gore would have won 2000 if he had picked Graham as VP |
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ChoppinBroccoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I Always Thought His Choice Of Lieberman Was A Fatal Mistake........... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Gore needed someone not from the NE. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
30. I think Palin actually gave McCain a boost - so no |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. She probably did at first |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Every Rep I know loved her then |
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BlueDemKev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
37. WHO CARES??? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. No, because then the right wing base wouldn't have turned out for him. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. No, he would have lost by an even bigger margin... |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. He did get a bump in the polls after Palin at least initially. nt |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. Anybody who thinks McCain lost only due to Palin wasn't paying attention |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. No. nt |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. Very doubtful. |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. I highly doubt it |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. Jewish voters vote Democratic, they didn't even support Lieberman during the Primary |
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