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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:53 PM Original message |
"America’s finances were in great shape by the year 2000." |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. More lies |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You pay down the debt with surpluses. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Right |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Did you even read the OP? |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Yeah I did |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. More lies. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You suspect wrong |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Maybe this will help you. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. All it helps is the perpetuation of a demonstrable falsehood and popular myth |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. "if there was an actual surplus, the debt would have gone down" |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. That's not how it works |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yes, it is how it works... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Sigh |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I think you need to study how the... |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Your mumbo jumbo isn't selling. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Future tenses |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I think your mistake was in your first post. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Oh, yes there was... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No there wasn't |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Those numbers only go through 1999.... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Surpluses after 1999? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Those aren't in... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. They're in actual dollars |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Dude... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Dude... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I'll give you a hint... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. No idea where you're going with this so you may as well be explicit |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Are you accusing the Clinton administration and.. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You have to state your premise first |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I asked you a straightforward question... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. That's not a complete question if you won't state the subject |
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Iwasthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yep, I remember Greenspan arguing against paying down the debt completely |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. No shit |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
3. National debt by U.S. presidential terms |
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Cresent City Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
5. There's debt and deficit |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. HEY! Don't blame me! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. The tech bubble reached its height on March 10, 2000 |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. So deficits and national debt are all about the stock market rising and falling? |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. No, they're about serial debt bubble blowing by the Fed |
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reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Actually, tax revenue has become too dependent on capital gains. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 06:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. See Post #31. n/t |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Yes pretty much |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. That's the downside to the "tax the rich" concept |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Indeed, |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. It wasn't just about invading Iraq, it was about giving tax cuts to the wealthiest individuals |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
22. Reagan took us from biggest lender to biggest debtor. Dems need to say that |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Nixon is the culprit |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Nixon made it possible, Raygun did the deed. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
49. This OP makes me very happy for the ignore function... |
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