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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:52 PM
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Josh Marshall, TPM: Ryan's Biggest Foe: Private Insurers
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/04/ryans_biggest_foe_private_insurers.php

Ryan's Biggest Foe: Private Insurers
Josh Marshall | April 15, 2011, 12:03PM


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Basically, no one wants to provide that insurance. And frankly, why would they?

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The private insurance industry is based on getting steady premiums for as healthy as possible of population of people. That's why 'pre-existing conditions' have become such a big issue. And every person over 65 has at least one pre-existing condition: they're old.

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Marshall links to this TPM article by Benjy Sarlin:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/will-anyone-even-insure-seniors-if-paul-ryans-medicare-plan-passes.php

Will Anyone Even Insure Seniors if Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan Passes?
Benjy Sarlin | April 15, 2011, 11:00AM

At first glance, Paul Ryan's plan to send millions of seniors into the free market with dwindling vouchers in hand might seem a boon to the private insurance industry. But would companies even want to participate?

Unlike the Affordable Care Act, which mandated that millions of young and healthy Americans purchase insurance with government subsidies, the Paul Ryan plan would instead bring the oldest, sickest, and least profitable demographic to the table. And with the CBO projecting that the average senior would be on the hook for over two-thirds of their health care costs within just 10 years of the plan's adoption -- a proportion that is projected to worsen in the long run --- the government subsidies backing them up may not bring in enough profitable customers to make things worthwhile.

"If reimbursement rates are too low to provide basic benefits, they'll tell the government, 'You do it,'" one insurance lobbyist told TPM. "I don't think they can require they lose money, they'd just pull out."

Dan Boston, a veteran lobbyist for health care providers and co-owner of Health Policy Source, said in an interview with TPM that he was taking a "wait and see" approach on the GOP budget before judging its value. (The American Hospital Association opposes the plan). But he cautioned that a major concern would be whether hospitals and private insurers would be left on the hook for low-income seniors eligible for both Medicare and Medicaid, who could run up significant costs with little hope of ever paying them off.

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Sarlin also points out Ryan's legislative history, which shows he's well aware of this. Or he was at one time. He's apparently changed his mind. But in 2009, talking about the Medicare+Choice program created by the GOP in 1997 (which was replaced by the more expensive Medicare Advantage program in 2003), he pointed out that the insufficient federal funding, which led to HMOs pulling out of the program and seniors losing coverage, led to "painful" consequences for seniors and "the vocal anger was justified."

Democrats should be reminding Ryan of what he said then.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:01 PM
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1. I'd imagine that private insurers love Medicare as it is.
It takes the riskiest group out of the pool.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:04 PM
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2. Interesting. Wouldn't it be fun for the insurance industry to mount the same kind of anti campaign
to this as they did against HCR?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:06 PM
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3. Really, the democrats should take advantage of the obvious...
Set up the single payer, people funded, health insurance program for those in the population who the insurers cannot profitably insure. Create it so that it can expand as insurers provide less and less affordable insurance to risky clients. And, of course, fold into it a "network" of providers that includes an independent national health service.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:15 PM
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4. An excellent point. Good find! nt
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:07 PM
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5. Thanks!
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:14 PM
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6. That makes perfect sense. However, I get all my care through Medica
which is an insurance company. Why are they in it? I am on medicare/medicaid and have diabetes. The two government programs contract with Medica to give me health care. They are already in it.
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