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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 08:52 AM
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High Res Photos of Damage at Fukushima
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 09:23 AM
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1. That is an image of Reactor #3 I believe
It obviously has the most structural damage, and what "used" to be the upper half of the reactor is now comprised of the debris inside, that of which did not get blown to smithereens as distant as a kilometer away, outside after the explosion.. It no longer still has a spent fuel "pool" that "was" attached to the upper half of two or more sides of the walls, so all of the spent fuel rods (that is IF they are still in the form of rods) are now mingled amongst the debris and the floor of the reactor. I have to believe that Reactor #2 has also probably lost its spent fuel rods pool and the only reactor of the four most damaged that likely still has its spent fuel rods pool completely intact is #4.

So when the crews spray water inside this reactor, there is no "pool" to refill, and the water apparently just soaks through the irradiated debris and then must leak out "somewhere" through the floor or the foundation of the reactor, if it isn't released as radioactive steam. How can TEPCO possibly ever know if or when these tons of spent fuel "rods" and those that were being used at the time the reactor was shut down, are cooled enough to attempt to bury the reactor? How will they ever know what condition of the hundreds of tons of spent fuel "rods" are in, and that possibly if not probably most, if not all, have long ago lost their protective sheaths of zirconium cladding, and instead are now broken apart and are more accurately described as tons of exposed fuel pellets layered throughout the debris and upon the reactor's floor?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 09:35 AM
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3. OMG....
Fuck GE's design. I find it rather ironic that the CEO of GE is named 'Immelt.'

WASF.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:51 PM
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17. ummm..that is not Happy Talk - not allowed
yup
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 09:33 AM
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2. Look at that Putzmeister at work



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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 09:39 AM
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4. Why would anyone
put a Nuclear Power Plant next to an ocean? It makes no sense to me. Why take the chance of destroying an ocean?

WASF
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:00 AM
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5. Because as BP will tell you "the ocean is a very big place".
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:31 AM
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7. Big and deep enough to dump highly radioactive and extremely toxic shit into and hope no one ever
discovers anything about it by sheer "accident".

If it can't be seen near or on the surface of the seven seas, then it is "all gone"..out of sight, out of mind.

BP, while ignoring the index finger wagging of our leaders in DC, swept their mess under the "rug" of the GOM using toxic Corexit dispersants, which, in addition to reducing the observable surface and near surface spread of the crude, sank much if not most of it down to the seafloor so that when/if over time, their responsibility involving noticeable losses of massive amounts of marine life and any long-term or delayed illnesses and deaths of those living near or on the Gulf Coast can perhaps be plausibly denied.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:21 AM
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9. May TPTB and their
Corporate lords eat toxic fish and glow! Pretty soon they'll have to eat their damn money.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:30 AM
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6. Nuclear power plants need a lot of cooling water
Only one-third of the thermal energy generated is converted into electricity. The rest is dissipated into the environment through a cooling medium - water. Lots and lots of it (500,000 to 1 million gallons per minute). Japan does not have many large lakes or rivers, so they use the ocean.



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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:02 PM
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12. Salt water????
I thought this was causing problems of rust. The ocean water was a 'junk shot.'
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:43 PM
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16. a picture is worth a thousand words in this case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiler_feedwater">Feedwater is normally kept separate:

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:33 PM
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18. Feedwater....thx.
Pictures are good.

It's a shame that the GE Design was flawed from the beginning....keeping the spent fuel rods.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:25 PM
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11. Nuclear power plants use water, a lot of water
and that's why estuaries are their favorite locations. Lakes can work, as can major rivers, but they all need to be by a large body of water.

That's one of the main reasons there are no large commercial plants here in NM, although there are several small research plants at universities and national labs.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:06 PM
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13. Salt water isn't used....
Salt screws up the fuel rods, I thought. I've heard nothing of a desalinization plant nearby.

And keeping these damn spent fuel rods around (thank you GE for bringing things to DEATH) was beyond stupid. Scientists quit working at GE at the time ('70's) because of this dumbass design.

Now, CEO, Immelt (interesting name, huh?) takes no responsibility whatsoever.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:25 PM
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14. Look up the word "estuary."
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:05 PM
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15. Guess you've never
seen on in NM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuary

have you?

I'd think they might want to be located above a big aquifer....but I better look that up as well.

Listen, I get enough crap IRL....I don't need it here at DU...dick
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:54 AM
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8. kick so i can find it later to show hubby n/t
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:15 PM
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10. You know that you can bookmark this thread as well, of course?
Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 12:18 PM by Urban Prairie
the link is located just above on the left side of the top of the slim dialog box that has Home>>Discuss>>General Discussion
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