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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:25 PM
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It is official: I'm never taking another class from the School of Business again.
We were talking about Keynesian theory in class today, and my professor mentioned that Johnson was the first U.S. President to really implement Keynesian theories, so I asked him "Wasn't the New Deal Keynesian?" His response: "Well, you people like to think so, but FDR believed in a balanced budget and when he pushed it through in 1936, he led to another recession." I was thinking. "You people?" Me and who? It kind of annoyed me, am I overreacting? Oh, and is that true about FDR causing another recession?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:27 PM
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1. FDR did bow to pressure for a while & the economy stumbled again
Truth-be-told, WWII actually fixed it the most:(
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:38 PM
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5. and it's been paralyzed by that fix ever since.
the MIC that no politician can even discuss.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:29 PM
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2. Report it to the head of the School of business
any school worth anything won't put up with professors who say things like that.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:33 PM
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3. That professor is toxic. You know the recent right-wing meme that
teachers are teaching our children to be liberal? Well, this prof is obviously a wingnut and to him liberals are not co-equal Americans, they are "you people".

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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:34 PM
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4. So far two of my classes have had right-wing professors.
So much for the myth that colleges teach students to be commies.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:41 PM
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6. I got one of those "You peoples" from a health insurance
company rep about a month ago.

It is intended as a derogatory phrase, only used by conservatives, and it means "independent thinking human being" as opposed to the norm of "mindless brainwashed consumer".
;)
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:46 PM
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7. I'm going to go a different direction here: No -- stay
Professors will represent a spectrum of viewpoints. The good ones will teach their viewpoints if for no other reason than to encourage debate and argument. Part of what any college level class should be about is learning to debate and defend viewpoints.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:47 PM
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8. suck it up, argue your point and if wrong, learn. college, right? surely the kid gloves
come off
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:55 PM
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10. I do argue my point,
my problem here, is with his "you people" comment. We all know that implies someone who is different or wrong in some way.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:57 PM
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12. so? a science teacher listening to someone argue creationist... you people that think that are
stupid.

you wouldnt have an issue there.

so what, he said you people. argue and win. or argue, lose and learn.

college
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:52 PM
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9. Sounds like your reputation is preceding you wolf........
:rofl:

As an aside, when I was in college back when dinosaurs ruled, it was a newly founded university and there was a lot of construction of buildings on campus. When they FINALLY opened the business school and put it on the aerial maps of the campus, it looked EXACTLY LIKE A TOILET! I'm talking EXACTLY! It had a tank and a hex shaped bowl with a little connecting area. Me and my commie friends busted a gut laughing about that one.

That was a perfect expression of my thoughts on the business school.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:56 PM
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11. "You people" is sort of beyond the pale
However, a good professor will challenge a student, even if he or she agrees with the student. My goal when I'm teaching is to ask a lot of questions and let the answers come by themselves. So I don't think a professor challenging an assertion about Keyneisian economics and the New Deal is inherently wrong (and it's pretty obvious you're right by any objective standard), but the way the challenge happened was.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:02 PM
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14. The way he challenged me was my only problem.
If he had said "Well, some people think that,but what really happened" or something along those lines, I would have been fine. "You people" however implies that the person in question is not as good as the "other people."
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:01 PM
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13. Are you at Liberty University? Heritage Foundation University?
I get the sense that your professor has a bit of an agenda. Which in an odd way, might help you.

Your goal is to (a) get good grades, and (b) learn as much as you can.

Of course what college should teach you is not necessarily something specific, but HOW to learn on your own. How to compare things, make your own decisions.

So let's say that this professor is NOT trying to teach you to think on your own, but has an agenda and is trying to teach you a specific way to think about this.

Let him think he's doing that. Tell him what he wants to hear.

This may sound bad. But if you know you are doing both (a) and (b) above, you win. Take what he says and read up on it. If you disagree fine, if you know that his agenda will cost you grades, don't disagree. Tell him what he wants to hear. Take the grade, AND more importantly, take the knowledge you gain.

He thinks HE won, you KNOW he did not. Its a win win solution ... in which YOU win, and he only thinks he won.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:10 PM
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15. Your first mistake was not attending business classes at "Trump University"!
:evilgrin:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:23 PM
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16. I'd have said, "You people?" and insisted that he explain what he
meant by that. He would have backed down right away. Don't be frustrated. Insist on an explanation. Make him recognize his error in using a belittling term. What can you lose?

I went all the way through college challenging professors when they said stupid things. Graduated with a 3.85 GPA. I never backed down on that kind of crap.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:03 PM
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18. you people? do tell? ya, i like that. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:29 PM
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17. Your professor is an asshole, but he's right on FDR there.
FDR never accepted Keynesianism, he was at heart anti-deficit until the day he died, hence the idiotic decision to cut spending in 1937, which lead to a recession. We did not get out of the Depression until WW2 forced the government to spend like crazy.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:06 PM
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19. Most schools have a rate your prof site, make sure you rate this guy low and
I would go talk to a counselor before you leave school.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:29 PM
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20. LOL. nt
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:32 PM
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21. Man, that'll show 'em. nt
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