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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:11 PM Original message |
State Dept. wants to make it harder to get a passport |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. The start of the, 'We let you in, we don't let you out' |
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nonperson (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Hotel California Syndrome |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. The Roach Motel model of international travel. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. +1 |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. yep |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. key word: SOME applicants |
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EmmettKelly (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. There ya go. If you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. SOME applicants |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. SOME applicants...like those who claim citizenship |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
50. the rule didn't say this only applies to those without documents |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. No those who do not have the documents to prove citizenship |
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LetTimmySmoke (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Only the SOME applicants that publicly say something controversial. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Wrong, nothing to get in a tizzy about. See comment #22 on this thread. n/t |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Expecting that all citizens should have equal rights is not a "tizzy." |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. and if you're one of them? |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. no, but i do have |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. and if they question it, you can come up with the other stuff, right? |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. i have a passport |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. that's you |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. All addresses since birth? Good luck with that one, Binky |
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onyourleft (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. My dad's business phone number in 1945... |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. How would they know you didn't put down all your addresses? |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Answers: Never employed: welfare baby. Mother unknown, various fathers. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. You forgot all former addresses: lived on the street. |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
66. Actually, I was just too stoned to remember my addresses. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. That's just for the folks that can't provide an official certified birth certificate. n/t |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's not what this article says |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I didn't get a federally compliant license this go around |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Well that is not what an article said a couple of weeks ago when the news first came out. n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. try reading the actual Federal Rulemaking that is being talked about before smacking people around |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. See comment #22 n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. That's not what it says --why are you the most convinced about which you are the most uninformed? |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's "insane" to ask for proof of citizenship to get a passport? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It's insane to ask for every residence and that other stuff |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. If someone can't provide a birth certificate or valid |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. that's not what the rulemaking says |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. If they don't like your official documents *now" |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
67. I'm not sure i could p[roduce a valid birth certificate |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I wonder what the flip side is of this? If someone can't produce all of this |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. How are they supposed to determine citizenship |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yep, good points! n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
17. God, I had a bad enough time |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
18. No way I can provide every address since birth and even my employment record |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
19. A Democratic Administration following the example of the GOP? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
22. when applicant submits citizenship or identity evidence insufficient or of questionable authenticity |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Thanks! n/t |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. Unless the OP can tell me how this process differs from the |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I doubt most could ever complete this application. n/t |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Address the specifics of what I said and asked, thanks. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I really don't think I ever said or implied that. "So I will assume you think that anyone who does |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Here's the thing, man |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Just so you know, I'm not arguing with you at all. I guess what I'm wondering is if |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm not trying to aruge either... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I'm back. The OP was titled 'The State Department wants to make it harder' since |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Can you name your mother's doctor during her pregnancy, UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. And they probably can impose a pentalty if not accurate. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. On the Dylan Ratigan program today he said there was jail time for |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. That is not the point actually. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Right, attest to the place, doctors and circumstances of your birth --stuff you can't attest to |
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datadiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
39. Looks like I'm never leaving the U.S. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. If you have a U.S. birth certificate then it doesn't apply to you. n/t |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. Only for those who cannot provide valid documentation of citizenship. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
42. All addresses since birth? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
47. Only for people with adequate proof of citizenship |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. Not for MOST people.. |
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louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why? So we can't get off the sinking ship? I bet it doesn't get harder for the rich to get one. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. Unrec for not pointing out up front that this doesn't apply to the vast majority of... |
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