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Trump committed treason to win the WH (Original Post) triron Dec 2017 OP
Agree! UCmeNdc Dec 2017 #1
That's how much the spoiled rich prick couldn't stand to lose. He made a deal with the Devil. PubliusEnigma Dec 2017 #2
Probably closer to sedition grantcart Dec 2017 #3
Could be. What exactly is the difference? triron Dec 2017 #5
This explains it pretty well Stryst Dec 2017 #6
So it was sedition before the election, treason after? n/t tikka Dec 2017 #8
...I think? Stryst Dec 2017 #9
That's not was Fox Noise says. ffr Dec 2017 #4
As did Nixon and Reagan flotsam Dec 2017 #7
Trump colluded because he's a lazy motherfucker who wants things done for him... Orsino Dec 2017 #10

Stryst

(714 posts)
6. This explains it pretty well
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:37 AM
Dec 2017
http://www.news18.com/news/india/sedition-and-treason-the-difference-between-the-two-506675.html

Sedition is an overt subversive act which leads to incitement against status quo or authority or order. It is a challenge to the establishment. It may be a book, a painting, an idea, a speech, pretty much anything that can act as a vehicle of an anti-establishment idea.

Treason, on the other hand, involves colluding with anti-national forces in terms of providing material support to people or groups who work against the idea of one's nation.

So sedition is against a government in power where as treason is violation of one's allegiance to one's country or sovereign. Sedition threatens a government or individuals in power and treason threatens the entire country with all its people

However, in many societies the differences between the two have become blurred and sedition has been closely linked to acts of terrorism and public safety violation.

Stryst

(714 posts)
9. ...I think?
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:14 AM
Dec 2017

And then because of the power of the office it becomes high treason. From the Wikipedia;

Treason is criminal disloyalty. Historically, in common law countries, high treason is treason against the state. It was differentiated from petty treason (or petit treason), which was treason against a lesser lawful superior (such as a servant killing his master).


ffr

(22,670 posts)
4. That's not was Fox Noise says.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:26 AM
Dec 2017

You'll never ever convince those who will follow tRump to his downfall. There isn't enough proof now that they are fully vested in the RW lie.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
10. Trump colluded because he's a lazy motherfucker who wants things done for him...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:01 AM
Dec 2017

...and hires crooks who'll cut corners.

Not because he expected to win, but because he doesn't knwo how to do things right, and wouldn't if he knew.

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