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underpants

(182,826 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:15 AM Dec 2017

Track Palin needs some serious help. Pleaded with Todd to shoot him then beat Todd up.

Painful new details emerged Monday about the arrest of Track Palin, who at one point pleaded with his father to shoot him, according to a police affidavit. The document said his father, Todd, was brandishing a gun but refused to shoot.

After his arrest Saturday, Track Palin, 28, was charged with first-degree burglary, fourth-degree assault and criminal mischief. He remains in custody. The police affidavit, contained in a court filing, describes a chaotic scene at the family’s home in Wasilla, Alaska, when Palin confronted his father over a truck he wanted to pick up.

Todd Palin had told him not to come to the home because Track Palin had been drinking and taking pain medication, according to the affidavit and charging documents.

When Todd Palin, 53, confronted his son at the door with a pistol, the younger Palin broke a window and entered the house and started beating his father, according to court filings. Palin pushed his father to the ground and hit him repeatedly on the head, the documents say.

More at link
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-alaska-palin-20171218-story.html

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Track Palin needs some serious help. Pleaded with Todd to shoot him then beat Todd up. (Original Post) underpants Dec 2017 OP
Taking pain medication means opioid addiction. yardwork Dec 2017 #1
No..It means taking medicine for pain, as most of us do from time to time. whathehell Dec 2017 #14
Wait and see. yardwork Dec 2017 #43
Okay. n/t. whathehell Dec 2017 #45
May not be addicted (yet), but he was getting high on opioids. DanTex Dec 2017 #48
It happens..I hope he gets the help he needs. n/t. whathehell Dec 2017 #49
Not necessarily. Mariana Dec 2017 #29
I wouldn't be surprised if Track Palin is bipolar & got addicted to drugs and clearly is in crisis.. Pachamama Dec 2017 #2
Bipolar RobinA Dec 2017 #35
That is why I suspect it - and often those people self-medicate between drugs and booze... Pachamama Dec 2017 #38
I find no humor or joy in what's happening with their family. PeaceNikki Dec 2017 #3
Same here. I can't imagine having to pull on gun on my own child. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2017 #5
He was fucked up before Iraq Sanity Claws Dec 2017 #6
That has no impact on my feelings of compassion and empathy for what's happening. PeaceNikki Dec 2017 #11
Imagine adding the horror of war to the psyche of someone already fucked up. PeaceNikki Dec 2017 #19
He was fucked up before he went to Iraq. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #7
That has no impact on my feelings of compassion and empathy for what's happening. PeaceNikki Dec 2017 #12
I'm providing a fact about Track Palin. It's a fact he was a troublemaker before he went to Iraq. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #16
They're both ill. If he was fucked up before, imagine adding war to that. PeaceNikki Dec 2017 #17
I will continue to post facts, and state when I don't see any comparison between two completely 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #22
neat PeaceNikki Dec 2017 #27
Save it for Track Palin. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #33
Best wishes for his recovery.. lostnfound Dec 2017 #4
Thank you..He supposedly has PTSD...I wish him a speedy recovery too. n/t. whathehell Dec 2017 #13
His mother has hinted that he does. Mariana Dec 2017 #21
Gee, I don't know.. whathehell Dec 2017 #24
He's behaving like plenty of alcoholics have before him. Mariana Dec 2017 #25
Well, Mariana whathehell Dec 2017 #30
What wrath? Mariana Dec 2017 #32
Ok, how about "scornful"? whathehell Dec 2017 #34
Load of crap. Mariana Dec 2017 #39
"Load of crap" back at you... whathehell Dec 2017 #40
He has some severe mental problems and is probably an addict elehhhhna Dec 2017 #15
He's an alcoholic who gets violent when he's drunk. Mariana Dec 2017 #28
Do you suppose he was upset about republican Treason against America? Achilleaze Dec 2017 #8
I dont care BeyondGeography Dec 2017 #9
Agree. infullview Dec 2017 #31
Guy is disturbed and needs help. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #10
I really hate Sara Palin but having a nephew redstatebluegirl Dec 2017 #18
Yes, hope he gets the help he needs. Sad story. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #20
"... and taking pain medication" Hugin Dec 2017 #23
Um, sorry, but unless you know him personally, you whathehell Dec 2017 #41
When it is disclosed in this exact article under the euphemism "pain medication" as well as numerous Hugin Dec 2017 #46
Nice try, but "pain medication" is frequently a literal description whathehell Dec 2017 #47
I find this sad eom mrs_p Dec 2017 #26
Track is trapped gratuitous Dec 2017 #36
Pleading to be killed is as loud a scream for help as it gets. nolabear Dec 2017 #37
No, he needs prison time. alarimer Dec 2017 #42
Great idea to bring a gun to the door. I mean clearly that calmed the situation right down. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #44

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
14. No..It means taking medicine for pain, as most of us do from time to time.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:00 AM
Dec 2017

You have no idea as to whether or not he's addicted.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
48. May not be addicted (yet), but he was getting high on opioids.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:51 AM
Dec 2017

It wasn't advil. He may have PTSD, in which case alcoholism, violent behavior and opioid abuse go with the territory.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
29. Not necessarily.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:03 AM
Dec 2017

Some non-narcotic OTC pain medications can increase the effects of alcohol, causing someone to become more drunk than he would normally be.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
2. I wouldn't be surprised if Track Palin is bipolar & got addicted to drugs and clearly is in crisis..
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:25 AM
Dec 2017

And guns are not going to be a solution here....

Its a miracle that this didn't end worse....

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
38. That is why I suspect it - and often those people self-medicate between drugs and booze...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:52 PM
Dec 2017

Which it sounds like he has been doing for most of his adult life....

I can't stand Sarah Palin and everything she stands for, but as a parent and somebody who understands how painful it is dealing with a family member who suffers from bi-polar, its a horrible and stressful situation I wouldn't wish on anyone.

And in this situation as described, it sounds like they have all been dealing with (and hiding) the seriousness of the situation with Track.

He likely was suffering from it before joining the military and then going to Iraq and the events he experienced there, only brought on PTSD and other conditions that made the situation worse.

Too many of our veterans and soldiers are suffering and then come home and the war never stops for them...and if they had a mental illness or mood disorder to begin with, it only gets worse....

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
3. I find no humor or joy in what's happening with their family.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:26 AM
Dec 2017

Honestly, now that Sarah Palin is a negligible presence in politics and no threat to the nation, I have nothing but pity for what her family is going through. Track was in Iraq. It fucked him up. Even his mom admitted that.

War and domestic violence are not things I can find humor in.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
11. That has no impact on my feelings of compassion and empathy for what's happening.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:56 AM
Dec 2017

It's no less tragic than McCain's illness.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
12. That has no impact on my feelings of compassion and empathy for what's happening.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:57 AM
Dec 2017

It's no less tragic than McCain's illness.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,009 posts)
16. I'm providing a fact about Track Palin. It's a fact he was a troublemaker before he went to Iraq.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:06 AM
Dec 2017

The only person who blames his issues on Iraq is his known to be a liar mother Sarah Palin.

Former long-term POW McCain has a terminal disease about to take his life.

One year (supposedly) in Iraq Track Palin can still turn things around. I see zero similarity between him and McCain.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
17. They're both ill. If he was fucked up before, imagine adding war to that.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:13 AM
Dec 2017

I get that some might find some sick satisfaction in it, and that's your prerogative. Have fun with that.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,009 posts)
22. I will continue to post facts, and state when I don't see any comparison between two completely
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:13 AM
Dec 2017

different situations.

lostnfound

(16,180 posts)
4. Best wishes for his recovery..
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:28 AM
Dec 2017

She is nails on a chalkboard to me, but who among us would wish this on our worst enemy? This must be heartbreaking.
Hope he gets the help he needs (and maybe it will create an epiphany).

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
25. He's behaving like plenty of alcoholics have before him.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:49 AM
Dec 2017

Whether they have spent time in the service or not. I don't see anything here that jumps out and says PTSD instead of plain old violent drunkenness.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
30. Well, Mariana
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:09 AM
Dec 2017

feel free to cast the wrath of your judgement on him then...Just realize not everyone is up for that. Merry Christmas and all that.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
32. What wrath?
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:18 AM
Dec 2017

I'm just saying there's no good reason to jump to the conclusion that he has PTSD, and explaining why. There's no "wrath" in my posts at all.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
34. Ok, how about "scornful"?
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:29 PM
Dec 2017

It was certainly judgemental...You say there's "no good reason" to assume he has PTSD, but then there's "no good reason" to assign it to anything else either...I did suggest that "give the benefit of the doubt" thing, but I understand that those who already despise the family are disinclined to be that generous.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
39. Load of crap.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:10 PM
Dec 2017

What do we know? He was drunk and he was violent, just like thousands of other people who get drunk and violent every single day, with no PTSD necessary. This is a common thing, and it's not "scornful" or "judgmental" to say so. The only reason it's news is because his family is famous. If it was the son of the ordinary guy a few doors down from you, it might get a few lines in the local paper, if there isn't much else to write about this week. That's because it happens all the time.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
40. "Load of crap" back at you...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:41 PM
Dec 2017

Sorry, but you seem to care a lot more about this topic than I do. :

Good luck with the wrath and scorn.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
15. He has some severe mental problems and is probably an addict
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:04 AM
Dec 2017

He has some severe mental problems and is probably an addict and as the mother of someone who's been sober for almost 7 years now, I hope to God they get the help they need as a family.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
28. He's an alcoholic who gets violent when he's drunk.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:55 AM
Dec 2017

This isn't exactly a unique situation. The only reason it made the news is because the family are famous.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. Do you suppose he was upset about republican Treason against America?
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:35 AM
Dec 2017

I mean, that ugly reality is upsetting just about everyone I know. Could be Track's problem. Either that or just a wicked bad case of republican family values

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
9. I dont care
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:35 AM
Dec 2017

The Palins are out-of-control people who have been enriched and overindulged by fools and haters. Track called the arresting officers “peasants.” What’s the rehab protocol for entitlement on steroids?

infullview

(981 posts)
31. Agree.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:09 AM
Dec 2017

If it were anyone else they'd have been burred the news in the local section of the paper. I wish I could say what I really felt about these people, but I think I would be hit with a flame thrower.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
18. I really hate Sara Palin but having a nephew
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:15 AM
Dec 2017

who came from a good home with two parents who loved him and cared for him and he turned out like this makes me have some sympathy for what they are dealing with. My sister has not slept through the night for over 4 years. He is an adult so there is little they can do but try and keep him alive as best they can. They have mortgaged their house to get him out of jail when he was nuts and got angry with someone, plus the three tries at rehab. I would not wish this on my worst enemy, not even Sara.

Hugin

(33,162 posts)
23. "... and taking pain medication"
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:34 AM
Dec 2017

In this case, it's not called "medication" it is called drug abuse. The Palins have been opiate abusers for a long time and to mix them with alcohol is suicidal.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
41. Um, sorry, but unless you know him personally, you
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:29 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)

have no business stating that as a fact.

Hugin

(33,162 posts)
46. When it is disclosed in this exact article under the euphemism "pain medication" as well as numerous
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:18 AM
Dec 2017

other media reports over the last ten years. No, I have no constraint on forming an opinion on a deliberately very public family.

Take your Palin apologist tripe elsewhere.

Tip of the iceberg:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2037211/Sarah-Palin-took-cocaine-affairs-Glen-Rice-husbands-business-partner.html

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
47. Nice try, but "pain medication" is frequently a literal description
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:39 AM
Dec 2017

and not a euphemism...

"Palin apologist" my ass.. Some of us just have the brains and sense of fairness to avoid the mindless bashing of everyone in a family because of "the sins of the mother" -- You may take THAT elsewhere.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
36. Track is trapped
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:43 PM
Dec 2017

"Problems" are what losers have. Sure, it may look to all the world that Track has a problem. Maybe several problems. But he's been raised from birth to think that problems are what other people have. Losers. Weaklings. Acknowledging that he has a problem would mark him as a loser and a weakling. So he wants out. Somebody shoot me, please, because facing my problems would mean that I'm no better than the people I've spent my life sneering at.

So this rattletrap shitshow goes rumbling, stumbling on, because nobody can admit that there's a problem. Nobody got killed this time, but next time? And there will be a next time.

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
37. Pleading to be killed is as loud a scream for help as it gets.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:44 PM
Dec 2017

There’s clearly an enormous problem there and he is not in a family that’s good at handling and supporting crises or pain. No matter what, he didn’t ask to be in this spotlight and he clearly desperately needs help. I hope he gets it, because he’s a danger to himself and others.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
42. No, he needs prison time.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:05 PM
Dec 2017

Fuck that entitled piece of shit. Fuck him and his whole rotten family.

He's a sociopath who should never have been allowed to enlist instead of doing time. He belongs in prison before he kills someone. He will, one day. There's no helping people like that.

No compassion here. I save it for people who aren't giant wastes of oxygen, like that entire family.

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