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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrack Palin needs some serious help. Pleaded with Todd to shoot him then beat Todd up.
Painful new details emerged Monday about the arrest of Track Palin, who at one point pleaded with his father to shoot him, according to a police affidavit. The document said his father, Todd, was brandishing a gun but refused to shoot.
After his arrest Saturday, Track Palin, 28, was charged with first-degree burglary, fourth-degree assault and criminal mischief. He remains in custody. The police affidavit, contained in a court filing, describes a chaotic scene at the familys home in Wasilla, Alaska, when Palin confronted his father over a truck he wanted to pick up.
Todd Palin had told him not to come to the home because Track Palin had been drinking and taking pain medication, according to the affidavit and charging documents.
When Todd Palin, 53, confronted his son at the door with a pistol, the younger Palin broke a window and entered the house and started beating his father, according to court filings. Palin pushed his father to the ground and hit him repeatedly on the head, the documents say.
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-alaska-palin-20171218-story.html
yardwork
(61,649 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)You have no idea as to whether or not he's addicted.
yardwork
(61,649 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)It wasn't advil. He may have PTSD, in which case alcoholism, violent behavior and opioid abuse go with the territory.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Mariana
(14,858 posts)Some non-narcotic OTC pain medications can increase the effects of alcohol, causing someone to become more drunk than he would normally be.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)And guns are not going to be a solution here....
Its a miracle that this didn't end worse....
is often behind this kind of behavior. Sadly, it's a tough illness.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Which it sounds like he has been doing for most of his adult life....
I can't stand Sarah Palin and everything she stands for, but as a parent and somebody who understands how painful it is dealing with a family member who suffers from bi-polar, its a horrible and stressful situation I wouldn't wish on anyone.
And in this situation as described, it sounds like they have all been dealing with (and hiding) the seriousness of the situation with Track.
He likely was suffering from it before joining the military and then going to Iraq and the events he experienced there, only brought on PTSD and other conditions that made the situation worse.
Too many of our veterans and soldiers are suffering and then come home and the war never stops for them...and if they had a mental illness or mood disorder to begin with, it only gets worse....
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Honestly, now that Sarah Palin is a negligible presence in politics and no threat to the nation, I have nothing but pity for what her family is going through. Track was in Iraq. It fucked him up. Even his mom admitted that.
War and domestic violence are not things I can find humor in.
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)Iirc he enlisted after he already had criminal charges against him.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)It's no less tragic than McCain's illness.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,009 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)It's no less tragic than McCain's illness.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,009 posts)The only person who blames his issues on Iraq is his known to be a liar mother Sarah Palin.
Former long-term POW McCain has a terminal disease about to take his life.
One year (supposedly) in Iraq Track Palin can still turn things around. I see zero similarity between him and McCain.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)I get that some might find some sick satisfaction in it, and that's your prerogative. Have fun with that.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,009 posts)different situations.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,009 posts)lostnfound
(16,180 posts)She is nails on a chalkboard to me, but who among us would wish this on our worst enemy? This must be heartbreaking.
Hope he gets the help he needs (and maybe it will create an epiphany).
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Mariana
(14,858 posts)Has anyone ever actually said he has PTSD?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)but maybe we could give him the benefit of the doubt, huh?
Mariana
(14,858 posts)Whether they have spent time in the service or not. I don't see anything here that jumps out and says PTSD instead of plain old violent drunkenness.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)feel free to cast the wrath of your judgement on him then...Just realize not everyone is up for that. Merry Christmas and all that.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)I'm just saying there's no good reason to jump to the conclusion that he has PTSD, and explaining why. There's no "wrath" in my posts at all.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)It was certainly judgemental...You say there's "no good reason" to assume he has PTSD, but then there's "no good reason" to assign it to anything else either...I did suggest that "give the benefit of the doubt" thing, but I understand that those who already despise the family are disinclined to be that generous.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)What do we know? He was drunk and he was violent, just like thousands of other people who get drunk and violent every single day, with no PTSD necessary. This is a common thing, and it's not "scornful" or "judgmental" to say so. The only reason it's news is because his family is famous. If it was the son of the ordinary guy a few doors down from you, it might get a few lines in the local paper, if there isn't much else to write about this week. That's because it happens all the time.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Sorry, but you seem to care a lot more about this topic than I do. :
Good luck with the wrath and scorn.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)He has some severe mental problems and is probably an addict and as the mother of someone who's been sober for almost 7 years now, I hope to God they get the help they need as a family.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)This isn't exactly a unique situation. The only reason it made the news is because the family are famous.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)I mean, that ugly reality is upsetting just about everyone I know. Could be Track's problem. Either that or just a wicked bad case of republican family values
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)The Palins are out-of-control people who have been enriched and overindulged by fools and haters. Track called the arresting officers peasants. Whats the rehab protocol for entitlement on steroids?
infullview
(981 posts)If it were anyone else they'd have been burred the news in the local section of the paper. I wish I could say what I really felt about these people, but I think I would be hit with a flame thrower.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:28 AM - Edit history (1)
I wish him well.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)who came from a good home with two parents who loved him and cared for him and he turned out like this makes me have some sympathy for what they are dealing with. My sister has not slept through the night for over 4 years. He is an adult so there is little they can do but try and keep him alive as best they can. They have mortgaged their house to get him out of jail when he was nuts and got angry with someone, plus the three tries at rehab. I would not wish this on my worst enemy, not even Sara.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Hugin
(33,162 posts)In this case, it's not called "medication" it is called drug abuse. The Palins have been opiate abusers for a long time and to mix them with alcohol is suicidal.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)
have no business stating that as a fact.
Hugin
(33,162 posts)other media reports over the last ten years. No, I have no constraint on forming an opinion on a deliberately very public family.
Take your Palin apologist tripe elsewhere.
Tip of the iceberg:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2037211/Sarah-Palin-took-cocaine-affairs-Glen-Rice-husbands-business-partner.html
whathehell
(29,067 posts)and not a euphemism...
"Palin apologist" my ass.. Some of us just have the brains and sense of fairness to avoid the mindless bashing of everyone in a family because of "the sins of the mother" -- You may take THAT elsewhere.
mrs_p
(3,014 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"Problems" are what losers have. Sure, it may look to all the world that Track has a problem. Maybe several problems. But he's been raised from birth to think that problems are what other people have. Losers. Weaklings. Acknowledging that he has a problem would mark him as a loser and a weakling. So he wants out. Somebody shoot me, please, because facing my problems would mean that I'm no better than the people I've spent my life sneering at.
So this rattletrap shitshow goes rumbling, stumbling on, because nobody can admit that there's a problem. Nobody got killed this time, but next time? And there will be a next time.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)Theres clearly an enormous problem there and he is not in a family thats good at handling and supporting crises or pain. No matter what, he didnt ask to be in this spotlight and he clearly desperately needs help. I hope he gets it, because hes a danger to himself and others.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Fuck that entitled piece of shit. Fuck him and his whole rotten family.
He's a sociopath who should never have been allowed to enlist instead of doing time. He belongs in prison before he kills someone. He will, one day. There's no helping people like that.
No compassion here. I save it for people who aren't giant wastes of oxygen, like that entire family.