There is a big difference between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.

Don't know why he is always on the shows.

so he will support shitty economic policy.

etc., will be a big factor in 2018 and 2020.

Darn near every white winger I have seen who expresses dissatisfaction with Trump says they'd vote for him again. And many who are "dissatisfied" aren't mad for the same reasons we are. They are dissatisfied because he hasn't deported millions, locked up Clinton and Black Lives Matter, bombed Iran, kicked everyone but poor whites out of the safety net, etc.

but most GOPer voters can't see past yesterday.

That is never a good sign. The tax bill will destroy housing as well.

or loan, you might lose a few dollars on tax deductions with the net effect you pay a little more in taxes. You think those folks are going to change party. I don't.

Look, I want Democrats in office, but those kinds of exaggerations won't get us there.

own it for two years to get a tax break and you can not do that until after every five years...flipping is dead, and also some changes will affect the refinancing of loans...people will feel it...and with auto people laid off...I expect a downturn...they are always the first.

of flipping, the two year holding period for tax benefits really doesn't apply. If someone expects to get the tax benefits of being a homeowner, but plans on selling a house every year -- flipping -- I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of sympathy for them. They aren't homeowners, they are in the business of flipping.

Autos no longer power our economy, hasn't for years.

Look, I think the tax plan sucks, long-term especially. But I think most people -- the vast majority -- will see more money in their paychecks. They will like that and not even give a second thought to the fact it increases the debt, will likely lead to cuts in important programs, might impact flipping, or whatever. That is just the way it is for most people, and we are fooling ourselves if we think the average Joe/Jane is going to go straight to the polls in 2018 and 2020 and punch in straight party Democrats.

The economy is good now. Why did Trump just hit a new polling low :

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

and why do Democrats have an eleven point lead in the generic ballot:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html

bombed Iran, and worse.

It's not that the folks who disapprove will necessarily vote for a Democrat in 2018/2020. Most white wingers I've seen in interviews who "disapprove" of Trump, say they will vote for him again.

We'll know in less than one year. I hope to be eating crow -- heck I'll eat crow dung -- come November 2018.

job now...luckily we have been here for a while...but it will hurt lots of people and impact housing.

that the impeachment was a manufactured farce, being run by hypocrites in congress whose own womanizing was an open secret....

+1000