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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:32 AM Dec 2017

Who are we as a country? Time to decide: Sally Yates

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/19/what-kind-country-we-speak-out-core-american-values-sally-q-yates-column/951828001/

Who are we as a country? Time to decide: Sally Yates
Sally Q. Yates, Opinion contributor Published 3:15 a.m. ET Dec. 19, 2017
Stand up and speak out on America's core founding values. We are not living in ordinary times, and it's not enough to admire them from afar.

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What are the values that unite us? You don’t have to look much further than the Preamble to our Constitution, just 52 words, to find them:

“We the people of the United States” (we are a democratic republic, not a dictatorship) “in order to form a more perfect union” (we are a work in progress dedicated to a noble pursuit) “establish justice” (we revere justice as the cornerstone of our democracy) “insure domestic tranquility” (we prize unity and peace, not divisiveness and discord), “provide for the common defense” (we should never give any foreign adversary reason to question our solidarity) “promote the general welfare” (we care about one another; compassion and decency matter) “and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity” (we have a responsibility to protect not just our own generation, but future ones as well).


Our forefathers packed a lot into that single sentence. Our Bill of Rights is similarly succinct in guaranteeing individual liberties — rights that we have come to take for granted but without vigilance can erode and slip away, such as freedom of speech (our right to protest and be heard); freedom of religion (the essential separation between how one worships and the power of the state); and freedom of the press (a democratic institution essential to informing the public and holding our leaders accountable).

Our shared values include another essential principle, and that’s the rule of law — the promise that the law applies equally to everyone, that no person is above it, and that all are entitled to its protection. This concept of equal protection recognizes that our country’s strength comes from honoring, not weaponizing, the diversity that springs from being a nation of Native Americans and immigrants of different races, religions and nationalities.

The rule of law depends not only on things that are written down, but also on important traditions and norms, such as apolitical law enforcement. That’s why Democratic and Republican administrations alike, at least since Watergate, have honored that the rule of law requires a strict separation between the Justice Department and the White House on criminal cases and investigations. This wall of separation is what ensures the public can have confidence that the criminal process is not being used as a sword to go after one’s political enemies or as a shield to protect those in power. It’s what separates us from an autocracy.

And there is something else that separates us from an autocracy, and that’s truth. There is such a thing as objective truth. We can debate policies and issues, and we should. But those debates must be based on common facts rather than raw appeals to emotion and fear through polarizing rhetoric and fabrications.

Not only is there such a thing as objective truth, failing to tell the truth matters. We can’t control whether our public servants lie to us. But we can control whether we hold them accountable for those lies or whether, in either a state of exhaustion or to protect our own political objectives, we look the other way and normalize an indifference to truth.

We are not living in ordinary times, and it is not enough for us to admire our nation’s core values from afar. Our country’s history is littered with individuals and factions who have tried to exploit our imperfections, but it is more powerfully marked by those whose vigilance toward a more perfect union has prevailed.

So stand up. Speak out. Our country needs all of us to raise our collective voices in support of our democratic ideals and institutions. That is what we stand for. That is who we are. And with a shared commitment to our founding principles, that is who we will remain.
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Who are we as a country? Time to decide: Sally Yates (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2017 OP
Nice words, but it has no real impact Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #1
Stop being so cowardly! DemocracyMouse Dec 2017 #13
I think you better dial back on the insults here lunatica Dec 2017 #17
Is it an insult? DemocracyMouse Dec 2017 #20
"Creeping" fascism? lastlib Dec 2017 #21
Calling someone a coward is usually considered an insult lunatica Dec 2017 #22
I hear you DemocracyMouse Dec 2017 #23
We have to win elections louis c Dec 2017 #16
You can call Rep's and Senators...anyone of them that you want. I'm sorry I'm so upset I'm not Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #24
Can she run for public office? IluvPitties Dec 2017 #2
She has said she doesn't want to. nycbos Dec 2017 #4
We dont get to decide. The mega-corporations own this country now. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #3
Actually I'm blaming the Supreme Court for that one FakeNoose Dec 2017 #12
K & R L. Coyote Dec 2017 #5
Why aren't we paying down the debt to China ...if we have money available to make tax cuts Rene Dec 2017 #6
They sure are happy to lend it. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #25
Right there with you, Sally! ffr Dec 2017 #7
"Who are we as a country? Time to decide" BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #8
I still say it is some kinda Brain parisite or virus,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Dec 2017 #9
Doesn't need to be a living organism BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #10
The REALLY disturbing part of what you just posted is that, anymore, it's not calimary Dec 2017 #11
+1 2naSalit Dec 2017 #15
I like that graphic in your sig line, 2naSalit! calimary Dec 2017 #18
Go for it, I stole it 2naSalit Dec 2017 #19
K$R oasis Dec 2017 #14
Here is where one side our country clearly stands, and stands tall: Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #26
She is correct, Americans are at a crossroads and have to make some choices. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #27
I agree with you Irish Dem bdamomma Dec 2017 #28
I know, bdamomma, we have worked too hard, just to now go backwards. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #29
I heard on Randi today bdamomma Dec 2017 #30
I know, Carlin was a modern day prophet disguised as a comedian. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #31
A lot of bdamomma Dec 2017 #32
He has already turned a nice profit by taking advantage of his position. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #33
Are you watching Lawrence ODonnell??? bdamomma Dec 2017 #34
No I didn't see it, but yes he could be threatening them. It is consistent Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #35

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
1. Nice words, but it has no real impact
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:36 AM
Dec 2017

People are standing up. And speaking out. More than have in decades from the looks of it, especially with a lot of casual republicans that are now realizing what their party has become.

But it hasn't changed a thing. There's absolutely nothing that can be done by the average person in "standing up" and "speaking out."

Where can they do this beyond the ballot box? I'd love some tangible things here, beyond resistbot and the like, that actually works. Because, frankly, outside of an actual physical push against things with millions in the streets (which were ignored during the lead-up to the iraq war) nothing will come of it.

It's dangerous to speak up and stand out at work. I'm hesitant to do it in public because of nutjobs with guns and short tempers. What else is there to do?

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
13. Stop being so cowardly!
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:07 PM
Dec 2017

Yates delivered an intelligent reference to our founding documents which underscores our underlying cultural strength as a country. Had you lived in 1776 would you have said "there's nothing we can do in the face of the King"? Shame on you citizen for being so cowardly!

You don't have to stand on your boss's desk and proclaim "Down with Trump and his Republican enablers!" Just walk over to your local Democratic office and volunteer. Look at the numbers of new Democratic candidates! It's through the roof! We have all the cards for 2018, but only if we buck up and get busy!

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
20. Is it an insult?
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:00 AM
Dec 2017

I'm sorry if I offended, but think about it: Is it an insult to ask someone to stop triggering fear and national suicide? Can we afford to give up? Fear can becontagious and I must confess that the earlier post had all the markings of a Russian operative attempting to sew fear and defeatism.

These are not normal times and we need all hands on deck. We need to all rise to the occasion and find ways to volunteer, speak out, campaign to address growing inequality and creeping fascism.

We must muster our bravery. It's almost an old fashioned sentiment, but we have no other choice.

2018.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. Calling someone a coward is usually considered an insult
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:20 AM
Dec 2017

and it you think we should become a united front then you have a problem because you're alienating people. And it isn't brave to insult others. If it were then Trump is the bravest person on the planet.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
23. I hear you
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:08 PM
Dec 2017

Yes, we must be united. But we must also be brave and not succumb to fear mongering. I hear you, but I hope you understand me as well.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
16. We have to win elections
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:22 PM
Dec 2017

and they're coming. slowly, at first, as specials (i.e. Ala) and off years (i.e. Va. and NJ), but come November, 2018, that's our chance.

We need just one legislative house to work as a counterweight to the Fascism that now occupies our government. Then, in 2020, the people of America will take over the whole of government and undo the catastrophe that now exists. Hard work, persistence, courage and patience are what's needed now.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
24. You can call Rep's and Senators...anyone of them that you want. I'm sorry I'm so upset I'm not
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:14 PM
Dec 2017

just calling my Senators. Also this piece is Sally speaking out!!! We all should do what we can. If that's running for office, joining an indivisible group, volunteering at the local Dem office, calling/emailing Senators etc..., sending postcards to the white house, slash trumpanzees on the internet, show up at a protest. There's lots you can do and Ya do what you can. I think it's good that you're on this message board...that's something...YOU'RE INFORMED. So carry on.

Rene

(1,183 posts)
6. Why aren't we paying down the debt to China ...if we have money available to make tax cuts
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dec 2017

oh I forgot we're borrowing an additional 1.5 trilion from China to fund the tax curs. massively bizarre finances

BumRushDaShow

(129,094 posts)
8. "Who are we as a country? Time to decide"
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:23 PM
Dec 2017

"They" decided a year ago last month. And that decision will kill us all.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
9. I still say it is some kinda Brain parisite or virus,,,,,,,,
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:50 PM
Dec 2017

released in our country by the Russians! Affects the frontal lobes ability to reason with Truth and logic.

calimary

(81,313 posts)
11. The REALLY disturbing part of what you just posted is that, anymore, it's not
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:01 PM
Dec 2017

as ridiculous a notion as it might once have been.

It's no longer unthinkable that an adversary as shrewd and calculating and sneaky as the Russians might be dabbling in research like this. And probably a lot more intensely than just "dabbling."

bdamomma

(63,870 posts)
28. I agree with you Irish Dem
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:50 PM
Dec 2017

We are definitely at a crossroads. This is our country!! I am not going to let this filthy repig party to drag us down. We have come to far, to go back to the dark ages.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
29. I know, bdamomma, we have worked too hard, just to now go backwards.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:53 PM
Dec 2017

I am not going quietly either.

bdamomma

(63,870 posts)
30. I heard on Randi today
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:06 PM
Dec 2017

how Orin Hatch and those other filthy repigs were singing him (trump) praises, it was sickening. All I keep on thinking about is how right Carlin was.

Carlin said "they are coming for everything" and "we are not in the club". His insight was spot on.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
31. I know, Carlin was a modern day prophet disguised as a comedian.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:24 PM
Dec 2017

He foresaw the brazen greed and corruption of our government,
and rule of the 1%. And yes we are not in the club.

Yes I heard about the ass kissing too.
So odd for them to come out that way.
Even Hatch said out loud that he "loved" Trump.
On one hand disgusting, the other puzzling.
Maybe they know Trump is leaving....??
Don't know.

bdamomma

(63,870 posts)
32. A lot of
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:47 PM
Dec 2017

brown nosing, and don't be fooled tRump will be getting or be "in the money", our money.

I hate them all.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
33. He has already turned a nice profit by taking advantage of his position.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:50 PM
Dec 2017

And I think even if he should resign they will have to give him a good financial deal to do so. As you say, he is in the money (our money) one way or the other.

bdamomma

(63,870 posts)
34. Are you watching Lawrence ODonnell???
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:06 AM
Dec 2017

Joy Reid is on for Lawrence tonight. Joy just had this women on who spoke about those Senators who talked negative about Trump, now they are all signing a different tune of praising him, sickening. This guest said those Senators could have been bullied and blackmailed and their families threatened. What is mafia don saying to them??? That they cannot even stand up to this POS? We have a very sick SOB squatter in the WH.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
35. No I didn't see it, but yes he could be threatening them. It is consistent
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:43 AM
Dec 2017

with his hostile, manipulative style.

Yes Trump is one sick cookie, quite a few things wrong with him.

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