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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:05 PM Dec 2017

Why is the stock market down today ??

You would think it would be way up with the vote on the tax cuts?

Are the folks on Wall Street finally beginning to see the ghosts behind the curtains?

There is a huge real estate bubble that is worse than 2008, in relation to smaller banks.

When the bubble busts, it's not going to be a pretty picture.

It's unusual to see a down market on any day recently. But, today seems like a more unusual day to see it go down?

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Why is the stock market down today ?? (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2017 OP
Buy on the rumor and sell on the news - n/t lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #1
Passage already baked in exboyfil Dec 2017 #2
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #3
Obama left us in a strong position. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #4
No doubt, Obama left us in excellent fiscal shape, as the steady growth he started... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #7
Also, misogyny Ezior Dec 2017 #9
Don"t forget. kentuck Dec 2017 #6
Took an economy in shambles and got it heading in the right direction. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #10
The amount is insignificant Sanity Claws Dec 2017 #5
buy the rumor, sell the news unblock Dec 2017 #8
The NY stock exchange is fundamentally a futures market grantcart Dec 2017 #11
Buy the rumor sell the news uponit7771 Dec 2017 #12
First time I have heard it stated like that. JimBeard Dec 2017 #14
Because corporations will do what they always do Cary Dec 2017 #13

Response to kentuck (Original post)

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
7. No doubt, Obama left us in excellent fiscal shape, as the steady growth he started...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:13 PM
Dec 2017

continues to this day. Of course, the Traitor-in-Chief takes credit for it.

Ezior

(505 posts)
9. Also, misogyny
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:16 PM
Dec 2017

The day they realized that Hillary Clinton would not be POTUS 45, the markets started going up.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. Took an economy in shambles and got it heading in the right direction.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:19 PM
Dec 2017

The loss of this last election was big.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
8. buy the rumor, sell the news
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:14 PM
Dec 2017

the markets are forward-looking. a *huge* part of the "trump effect," (to the extent the market rise wasn't just a continuation of the obama effect), was anticipation of a tax change that would massively benefit shareholders.

they've been running up to this moment. when the moment passes, they'll cash in. what's to justify further upward stock movement? what's the next great thing coming out of washington? is cutting social security going to help stock prices? not really. what else is on the agenda? nothing, really.

oh, and let's not forget the rising interest rate environment, never a good thing for stocks, though admittedly we're still historically low.

hopefully, the economy is strong enough to withstand mismanagement from washington, but there aren't a whole lot of great bullish signs at this point.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. The NY stock exchange is fundamentally a futures market
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

Since Trump was elected investors have been investing, not based on higher profits, but on speculation that policy changes would increase profit by corporations and justify higher prices.

Now that it has been achieved there are no other factors that would indicate that there will be any other increase in corporation profits or share prices so people will start taking their profit.

In addition there is an expected mass exodus of cabinet level people after they finish their first year of employment and qualify for capital gains relief.

It has peaked.
 

JimBeard

(293 posts)
14. First time I have heard it stated like that.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 07:44 PM
Dec 2017

Its amazing that people still don't understand buying on anticipation and selling when its a done deal.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
13. Because corporations will do what they always do
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 06:26 PM
Dec 2017

Use the windfall to buy back stock and push up PE ratios.

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