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ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 06:50 PM Dec 2017

Causes of French Revolution (1789- 99)

Causes of French Revolution (1789- 99)
-National debt (aggravated by wars)
-Unfair taxes (peasants paid, nobility did not)
-Anti-reform monarchy
-Church aligned with state
-Deregulation (of grain market, causing food scarcity and violence)
-Unpopular leader
(Just saying . . .)

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Causes of French Revolution (1789- 99) (Original Post) ChicagoRonin Dec 2017 OP
And I keep thinking about JFK's quote - RandomAccess Dec 2017 #1
You need to come up with a new theory of Revolution FarCenter Dec 2017 #2
with sweetapogee Dec 2017 #3
No offense at all ChicagoRonin Dec 2017 #5
they have sweetapogee Dec 2017 #6
We know how that turned out... yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #4
 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
1. And I keep thinking about JFK's quote -
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 07:29 PM
Dec 2017

even though it doesn't quite apply here --

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
2. You need to come up with a new theory of Revolution
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

The French Revolution was the first phase of the overthrow of the hereditary nobility by the bourgeoisie (the second phase was WW I&II which ended the German, Russian, Austro-Hurgarian, Ottoman, Chinese, and Japanese Empires, and enervated the British Empire). Earlier the hereditary nobility had overthrown the Catholic church during the wars of the Reformation and the Thirty Years War.

Since socialism has been discredited by the collapse of the USSR and the revisionists in China, there is now no coherent philosophy or political movement that seems likely to challenge the power of the bourgeoisie in the near future.

A new legitimate basis for power needs to be developed as the next stage after "power to intercede with God", "power inherited by birth", and "power because of ownership".

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
3. with
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:47 PM
Dec 2017

approx. 300 million privately held firearms and roughly 1 trillion corresponding rounds of ammo, most in the hands of citizens who don't think the way we do, don't expect a popular progressive revolution of any significance any time soon. Sorry if that offends.

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
5. No offense at all
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 06:10 PM
Dec 2017

I'm in no way in favor of an actual mass revolution. This is not to begrudge any disruptive events in history that did overthrow corrupt leaders that deserved it. However, if history is any guide, revolutions have an unfortunate habit of being indiscriminate. And, as you say, I'm pretty sure the right-leaning people who will suffer from Trump and the GOP's crazy ass ideas will first turn their guns on easily accessible scapegoats before aiming at the top (if at all).

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
6. they have
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 08:08 PM
Dec 2017

kept their powder dry during Democratic Presidents so I think you overstate their trigger finger impulses.

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