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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 07:57 PM Dec 2017

What *would* it take to prevent horrific legislation such as the Tax Scam Bill?

In light of the posted article about Democrats not doing enough to prevent the Tax Scam Bill from (potentially) passing, I can't help but think there's very little that would have done the trick (that includes marching in the streets carrying signs). What might have done the trick is very difficult to organize, even in this age of social media, and it's also something most can't afford to do. What I'm referring to is some sort of national strike, something that would shock the economy.

Such as if people, en masse, didn't go to work for a week or month, or didn't do any shopping for an entire weekend (that may not sound like much, but if tens of millions of people didn't do a lick of shopping - including gas purchases - for an entire weekend, it would send shock waves).

As I said, though, that's tough to organize and not something many can afford to do. Also, it would negatively impact some good people, including the strikers themselves in some cases.

So, short of that, the only answer is to GOTV. We have to outnumber the deplorables at the polls. We can't rely on them seeing the error of their ways. Even their suffering as a result of Republican legislation won't be linked, in their minds, to said legislation. They'll blame Democrats, especially those uppity women and persons of color. We simply have to outnumber them. We have to reach out to those who aren't engaged in politics, who don't vote. And we have to raise holy hell over race-based voter suppression and gerrymandering.

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Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
7. If she hadn't sent all those emails to Benghazi......
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:27 PM
Dec 2017

or about Benghazi, or about her daughter's wedding.

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
3. I think a general strike would be great. But that idea has big problems.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:19 PM
Dec 2017

In lieu of another civil war, that is. Kind of like the nonviolent sit-ins. No one goes to work or school or to stores, until the situation changes.

Basically, that is not a solution because way too many people cannot afford to do it. It would have to be well-planned and financed to make it feasible.

While we are at it, one of the demands should be government funded elections only. Take the money out of politics.

We have to be organized, have a plan and the means to carry it out, no matter what we do. Including for GOTV.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. Agreed, as I stated in the OP. Tough to organize and too costly for most. So, we're left with GOTV.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

And raising hell about voter suppression. And about gerrymandering. And about money in politics, as you rightly mention.

MiniMe

(21,717 posts)
4. That's why they rammed the bill through so quickly, before anybody could go home and face their
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

constituents. There was nothing that the dems could have done. Vote the rat bastards out.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
8. Get EVERY Democrat to fucking VOTE for once! That's what it will take.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:49 PM
Dec 2017

Nothing else will change anything.....NOTHING!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. But with over 30 Democratic "spineless" Democratic
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 06:32 PM
Dec 2017

senators who should be primaried, as some have claimed repeatedly, who would they vote for? Almost the entire Senate Democratic women's caucus gone, of course. Sanders gone.

You know, Beag, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY would hold the presidency and very possibly BOTH houses of congress now if some of the noisiest on the left had been able to recognize character and principles in our candidates.

If you want people to vote, maybe become what you want them to be.

Tell you what, go look up the record of ONE Democratic senator and then tell people what you found that they would want to vote FOR.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
9. We don't have the majority in Congress...we don't have the presidency...there is no way for us to
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:58 PM
Dec 2017

stop it. The bill is wildly unpopular...but the GOP will put it through. The only way to get rid of it is with a GOP majority...super majority in 18 or a majority and the presidency in 20.

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