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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLaurence Tribe on Joe Kennedy III
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ON EDIT: I just learned that Kennedy received his law degree from Harvard. I wonder if he took any classes from Prof Tribe while he was there.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)He's the Prince that was Promised.
FarPoint
(12,432 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)His wife just had a baby too. Their third child I believe.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)So he looks to be at last 6'.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Or should he first serve as Gov and then go straight to top of ticket?
He definitely should be considered. Thanks for the tip Professor Tribe.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)He is old enough and I like him a great deal...time for the next generation to take over...
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)than the late Ted Kennedy, who wasn't short.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/25/capital-download-rep-joe-kennedy-iii/70398048/
get the red out
(13,468 posts)And he has that covered!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,894 posts)in so many places, there is a strong thread of commitment to public service in that family. Yes, some members are scum, but others are far from scum.
It's unfortunate that too many families like the Kennedys think they should keep on naming kids generation after generation after one ancestor. If this young man were Shawn Kennedy, or Kyle Kennedy, or some other first name without a roman numeral after it and otherwise not connected to that family, he'd be better off.
Meanwhile, I keep on reading very good things about him, and I hope I'm lucky enough to vote for him for President some day.
democrank
(11,100 posts)He won't need consultants or focus groups to help him decide what he stands for. He's a real leader, one of substance.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)We need someone completely opposite of Trump.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And one of the best hopes we have.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)pnwmom
(108,990 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)murielm99
(30,755 posts)Dubai and Cheney fudged to get on the same ticket.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Both a president and vice president that are from that voters own state.
It is unlikely that two people from the same state would ever be nominated by a major political party. It is constitutionally possible however. If it ever came to pass, the party that won the ticket's state would likely suggest to the electors that their votes for the President go to the presidential nominee and that the votes for the Vice President be given in honor of a party official. Electors in all other states, as mentioned above, would be free to vote for both of the party's nominees.
https://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_a6.html
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Warren would be to old to run in 28. Let's not.
calimary
(81,441 posts)It'd be nice to have another Kennedy in the White House. He channels that same spirit. He's the grandson of Bobby Kennedy. I remember how he described the Affordable Care Act "this is how we take care of one another." Nine words, spoken so earnestly and with such sincerity, and they sum up everything our loftier more genuinely patriotic selves stand for, as well as the fundamentals Jesus taught us. I'm tremendously impressed with him.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Kamala Harris on the ticket? Cory Booker? Julian Castro? Kirstin Gillibrand?
Ahhh. Feels good to dream.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)That just seems so obvious to me.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)than suggesting puppies are really cute.
I'll give her this, she and her staff give the best non responses response I've ever heard and or read. It wasn't Amy Klobuchar raking Jeff Sessions over the coals when he was in front of the judiciary committee (and she is also on that committee).
We need a fighter, not someone who will do anything to avoid rocking the boat.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)We live in a world of parties now, not individuals. The policies which will get passed by one democrat will be about the same as those passed by any other democrat. Elizabeth Warren will get better environmental laws passed. Same for Klobuchar. Each would adopt similar regulations. Each would get the same consumer protections passed as the other, each would have about the same consumer rights regulations.
I certainly admire Warren more than Klobuchar. But Amy has a better chance of winning, because of those names pamby positions you described. I prefer President Amy to former candidate Elizabeth. But either will defeat Trump.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)Give them something to vote for. Amy is not that person.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)I am open to the argument firing up the troops will do better than defusing Warren haters. We should ask David Axlerod or Joe Trippi or Howard Dean or Nate Silver. I feel we are going to win in 2020 unless something weird happens. Republicans running ads turning Elizabeth Warren into Jo Stalin strikes me as something weird which might happen. So I tilt to Dont Rock the Boat I tilt toward dont take chances. I may be wrong.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)Nominate her and you'll lose anyone who had hope for any real change and by the time the Republicans are done with her we'll lose a bunch of of swing voters as well.
Playing it safe, not rocking the boat and "keeping our powder dry" had a lot to do with getting us into the mess we're in today.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Any Dem President.
Amy would support affordable health care for all, laws limiting carbon emissions, higher taxes on the rich, some extra infrastructure spending. I dont think much more than that is going to happen given the world we live in right now. But 2028 and beyond? Demographic changes will blow the Republican Party as it is now to oblivion. Then we can talk about hoping for real change. And we will have real change. And we will have technological changes permitting a huge surge in human welfare. Electric cars will be dirt cheap to own and operate. Thats like a ten percent pay hike. Block chain will grab 8% of gdp back from the banks and insurers. Thats another 10% pay hike. Diseases cured or controlled. Another 10% pay hike. We do have a struggle to fight land owners who currently strangle us. They will be tough to defeat. But patience, patience.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)general of course...let's consider geography in our selection also. We are going after the rust belt.
JimBeard
(293 posts)3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...that he wears the mantle of noblesse oblige with grace and passion.
Seems like the real deal to me.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)We're not supposed to have nobles and dynasties in America.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)My son says No more dynastys! Hes sick of Bushs & Clintons. Too young to know anything about Joes grandfather Bobby and what he meant to us. But I keep working on him.
DFW
(54,436 posts)Joe's grandfather was one very special man. What happened to Bobby in June 1968 was a serious blow to world history.
And tell your son to go to a school where English is taught! The plural of "dynasty" is "dynasties." I don't know what language his school is taught in, but English does NOT use an apostrophe to form a plural (Republicanese does, however).
karynnj
(59,504 posts)DFW
(54,436 posts)We have been reduced to cutting and pasting apostrophes!
Cha
(297,574 posts)to Joe Kennedy III's list, too..
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Glad he's such a hard worker for our Democracy! Mahalo, pnwmom~
JimBeard
(293 posts)Learning JFK's tricks with the camera. Pappa Joe encouraged video to help Jack.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I have often wondered about dynastic figures. One side of me likes the guy and the other says we shouldn't get worked up over his family's service and sacrifice, we need fresh faces. OTOH, I am so very glad he's there, keeping up the fight.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)through hard work and perseverance. Is it fair for his options to be limited because of what older generations in his family have done?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)As I said, I do like him and appreciate his efforts. I'd like to hear more from him!
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)And why should we lose a good guy because 60 years ago his great uncle was president...makes no sense. We need a fresh face and a committed Democrat...he is that.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)What tragedies in their lives. I know it dominated my political scene, but with a sense of sadness for the Kennedy family and also for our losses politically. But I agree with you, he is a committed Democrat and he seems like a truly good guy.
I do think, however, that this country is long overdue for a woman president. We need to find and promote a female progressive Democrat.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)I don't feel that we can elect a woman president this time...too much sexism. We have to win with whoever can. I want a woman president in my lifetime, but I want a Democratic win in 20 more at this moment. My future son in law who is Black told me...in his mostly Black barbershop, lifelong Democrats said the wouldn't vote for Hillary. That is the reality of the situation...same is true in my kids' millennial groups...quite a bit of sexsim. We all witnessed the sexism and lies Hillary Clinton faced. We need to change hearts and minds...but we can't do it by 20 and another GOP win would crush progressivism.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)President and before that for a Catholic to become president (JFK). Somehow we have to break the glass ceiling and I don't mean with a Sarah Palin or any other Republican woman. If it is Kirsten Gillibrand, I will vote for her. Ditto with Warren or Kamala Harris or Amy Klobuchar. It is shameful that the U.S. has not yet had a woman leading our nation when all over the world it is old news that women run countries.
The Republican brand, according to the latest polls, is highly unpopular, the highest it has been against the GOP in a long time. We must carefully lay our groundwork for 2018 and 2020. I expect to be as active as possible in both campaigns.
sprinkleeninow
(20,254 posts)Then again, having been born 'n' raised in CT, so have partiality.
My heart is forever in CT, alto' relocated in '85.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)Been thinking about a Kennedy / Sherod Brown ticket
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,439 posts)Not a deal breaker for me though.
rollin74
(1,989 posts)he voted with a lot of rethugs to allow the DEA to go after medical cannabis patients, even in states where it has been legalized
I trust voters over the DEA and bureaucrats in DC
he's a prohibitionist drug warrior
NNadir
(33,541 posts)While I enthusiastically voted for Ms. Clinton; my vote was despite her famous name; she had real accomplishments.
I've been unimpressed with the Kennedy's, with the possible exception of Ted and for him, only in his last years.
JFK was an unreconstructed cold warrior and sybarite, who nearly stumbled into a nuclear war because of his distracted behavior at the 1961 Vienna summit.
Bobby, who served as an assistant for that awful human being Roy Cohn is perhaps most over rated politician of the twentieth century, and was certainly no help to a much better man (for all his faults), Lyndon Johnson.
If this guy's name were Representative Joe Blistowiky rather than Joe Kennedy, no one would even remotely consider his a worthy candidate for the US presidency.
From my perspective, he needs to be divorced from his name, to overcome it, to impress me.
The person for whom his is named, his great grandfather, strongly objected to President Roosevelt's resistance to Adolf Hitler, hung out with British cryptofascists and Chamberlite appeasers and promised all of his rich friends in the late 1950's and early 1960's that no son of his was a liberal.
Only on the last point was he right.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)today with Rep Tim Ryan from Ohio on Bill Press. He was VERY impressive. Checked a lot of boxes for me. He had charisma...something I think is very important. Sounds shallow I know, but it is necessary to get folks interested enough to listen to the content of what a candidate is saying.
Vinca
(50,302 posts)Rep. Kennedy is a bonus because he not only has that charisma, he has brains and heart. No candidate will ever agree with you 100% of the time, but haven't we learned the lesson on purity tests in a big way? In addition, as an older Democrat, I'm excited to see the younger generation take center stage.