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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:34 PM Dec 2017

Honestly, I wouldn't have minded the corporate tax cut that much...

If they'd also had raising the minimum wage, closing tax loopholes to keep jobs from being shipped overseas, incentives for corporations to give a portion of the profits back to their employees by way of bonuses, health care coverage, retirement and wage increases.

There was a hell of a lot they could've done to make this bullshit easier to take.

Instead it's fuck the poor and the middle class and more money for them.

I hope these fuckers get voted out of office post haste after this betrayal.

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Honestly, I wouldn't have minded the corporate tax cut that much... (Original Post) cynatnite Dec 2017 OP
I would have. shanny Dec 2017 #1
Not one corporation pays it anyway, so yes if there was ANY give and take, but fuck NO, all take! Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #2
Yep... cynatnite Dec 2017 #6
I agree TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #3
i would have minded. Joe941 Dec 2017 #4
I Still Would Have Minded ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #5
Yeah, we'd never be able to make up that kind of difference no matter what. You're right.... cynatnite Dec 2017 #7
I thought it was from 35 to 21 moose65 Dec 2017 #8
And 18% on profits made off foriegn assets. haele Dec 2017 #10
They're eliminating a bunch of deductions for individual taxpayers. subterranean Dec 2017 #9

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. Not one corporation pays it anyway, so yes if there was ANY give and take, but fuck NO, all take!
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:37 PM
Dec 2017

What idiots who vote GOP dont understand is corps can ENTIRELY avoid paying ANY taxes by spending the money on deductible ways INCLUDING paying employees or investing in their company.

This tax bill does so much harm it is unbelievable.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
6. Yep...
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:44 PM
Dec 2017

They're feeding the fucking swamp.

My RW mother who did vote for tRump is scared now. I've been talking with her for a few years about what repukes want to do with social security and medicare. This tax scam has made a believer out of her now. Especially since her so-called raise was eaten when her supplemental insurance went up.

They're taking aim at these programs come the new year.

Good news is that she is voting straight Dem in the midterms.

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
5. I Still Would Have Minded
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:42 PM
Dec 2017

The scale of the reduction, on a relative basis, is huge. I could share your POV if it were smaller scale. I mean, they went from 20 to 15, right? That's a 25% relative reduction. That's a lot of cash to recover without draconian spending measures.

And we know how well that worked out in Greece.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
7. Yeah, we'd never be able to make up that kind of difference no matter what. You're right....
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:46 PM
Dec 2017

My RW mother is voting Dem in the midterms. She's been an avid repub supporter until now.

moose65

(3,168 posts)
8. I thought it was from 35 to 21
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 05:04 PM
Dec 2017

Isn't that right? The corporate income tax rate gets cut from 35% to 21%, which is a 40% reduction.

haele

(12,674 posts)
10. And 18% on profits made off foriegn assets.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 05:23 PM
Dec 2017

They probably framed it as a way to encourage more foreign investment in "failing" U.S. companies and infrastructure privatization efforts, but what they ended up doing was creating more encouragement for U.S. firms to keeping those assets offshore...and maybe moving more jobs offshore.

Haele

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
9. They're eliminating a bunch of deductions for individual taxpayers.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 05:07 PM
Dec 2017

But I haven't heard of any deductions or loopholes for corporations that are being eliminated. Those will still be there, apparently. Since the effective corporate tax rate averaged around 25% before, I guess now many corporations will have effective tax rates in the single digits!

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