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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:53 PM Jul 2012

Jerry Newcombe, Evangelical Leader, Says Only Christian Victims Of Colorado Shooting Going To Heaven

Reminds me of a time many years ago when I asked an evangelical if he thought the Jewish victims of the Holocaust were in Heaven. I did not get a response.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/jerry-newcombe-hell_n_1692859.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

An evangelical spokesperson for a religious group known as Truth In Action has claimed that the tragedy in Colorado happened because America has lost its fear of hell.

In an article published on OneNewsNow, evangelical Jerry Newcombe wrote:

I can't help but feel that to some extent, we're reaping what we've been sowing as a society. We said to God, "Get out of the public arena." Lawsuit after lawsuit, often by misguided "civil libertarians," have chased away any fear of God in the land -- at least in the hearts of millions.

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Perhaps more disturbing were Newcombe’s comments when on a segment on the American Family Association radio dedicated to understanding the shooting tragedy in Colorado. In taking about the deaths, Newcombe separated the afterlife fate of those who died as Christians and those who did not:

If a Christian dies early, if a Christian dies young, it seems tragic, but really it is not tragic because they are going to a wonderful place.. on the other hand, if a person doesn’t know Jesus Christ.. if they knowingly rejected Jesus Christ, then, basically, they are going to a terrible place.

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Jerry Newcombe, Evangelical Leader, Says Only Christian Victims Of Colorado Shooting Going To Heaven (Original Post) bluestateguy Jul 2012 OP
According to his religion he's right sharp_stick Jul 2012 #1
My problem is with his opening his vile stupid mouth at this point in time cali Jul 2012 #5
As far as I've ever been sharp_stick Jul 2012 #11
+1 mmonk Jul 2012 #13
I think most evangelicals believe this. sadbear Jul 2012 #2
I expected something like this. Archae Jul 2012 #3
Too bad 'ol Jerry is dead now. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #9
hey, Jerry, you stupid piece of crap: Shut the fuck up. cali Jul 2012 #4
Gee, wonder how he would know did god call him on the phone personally? southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #6
What a delusional asshat. smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #7
Thanks, but there is a higher judge DearAbby Jul 2012 #8
Onion Nails the Timeline alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #10
Ugh!!!! Their hate knows no boundaries!!! Initech Jul 2012 #12
This is surprising? cbrer Jul 2012 #14
Absolutely disgusting. osqosaoj Jul 2012 #15
I know a few good ones. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #18
Sitting on a fucking cloud playing a harp and singing hosannas for motherfucking eternity? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #16
judge not least ye be judged KakistocracyHater Jul 2012 #17
Nobody's going to heaven because their is no heaven. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #19
Man,this pisses me off. w8liftinglady Jul 2012 #20
"Evangelical Leaders" can believe what they want, but if his/her version of heaven Trillo Jul 2012 #21

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. According to his religion he's right
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:56 PM
Jul 2012

I have no problem with that. Usually my response to one of these guys is that I'd rather not associate with him in life and being stuck with him and his ilk in death would likely be a lot more like hell for me than he'd ever be willing to admit.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
11. As far as I've ever been
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jul 2012

able to figure out, these xtian grifters will do anything to drum up business and increase the cash inflow. A typical dirtbag like this one isn't anywhere near above using this kind of a tragedy to do that.

Archae

(46,335 posts)
3. I expected something like this.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jul 2012

Remember just two days after 9-11, Jerry Falwell blaming all of us for it?

"You don't believe in our money-making fairy-tale, so *YOU* is to blame for the shooting!"

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
9. Too bad 'ol Jerry is dead now.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jul 2012

He would have spouted some more fantastic bullshit on the matter.

Yep, too bad he croaked off.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
8. Thanks, but there is a higher judge
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jul 2012

who insists on doing his job without your help. Judge not lest ye be judged.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. Onion Nails the Timeline
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 07:23 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/

"The nation's citizens also confirmed that, any time now, some religious figure or cable news personality will say something unbelievably insensitive about the tragic shooting."

----SNIP----

Right on schedule...
 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
14. This is surprising?
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:43 PM
Jul 2012

You should know the "God" rules by now.

If you don't_______ you're going to hell!

If you do_________ you're going to hell!

All for a fee!

Make your reservations now!

 

osqosaoj

(14 posts)
15. Absolutely disgusting.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:45 PM
Jul 2012

I am an atheist, but I would say that if there is a heaven, there probably aren't many xtians in it since having to spend any amount of time with these intolerant people would be a hell. Believe me I have had to at work and even five minutes was unbearable. I constantly felt like vomiting even just having to look at these disgusting people.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
18. I know a few good ones.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:55 PM
Jul 2012

They dont prostelyze, they aren't judgemental, just quietly live by their faith without intruding on others. Very nice people, and a stark contrast to all the evil xtians.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. Sitting on a fucking cloud playing a harp and singing hosannas for motherfucking eternity?
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jul 2012

Yeah, that's just what I want..

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
19. Nobody's going to heaven because their is no heaven.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jul 2012

Though I wish there were a hell so assholes like him could burn in it.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
21. "Evangelical Leaders" can believe what they want, but if his/her version of heaven
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jul 2012

is anything like the hell they've created for non-Christians here on earth, then why would any of those non-Christian folks ever wish to go to that heaven? Sounds like an authoritarian, "devilish" place.

In My dreams and version of heaven, well, anyone can do anything they wish. It is not anarchy, because by the time we get there, we have learned to create harmony voluntarily. It is a Liberal heaven, where healing is offered for the ill, and souls of people who've been violently killed, those who were still expecting to get to see their loved ones here on earth at least one more time, at least to say good bye and I love you. Even Christians get to go there! if they want.

If the evangelical leaders version of heaven is a place they only get to go to, well, they can imagine that as "heaven", and create that for themselves. It simply doesn't mean we all want to go "there" with them.

Two different "heavens": A place of tolerance where we are allowed to do anything (good [god]), or a place where we are prohibited from doing many (good [god]) things. Each one of us get to choose!

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