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niyad

(113,498 posts)
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 03:12 PM Dec 2017

I keep thinking about this--wife#3 suppposedly speaks 6 languages. that would have made

her someone almost any intelligence agency or foreign service department would have wanted. yet, she was an illegal immigrant, a model?

sorry, something does not add up here.

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I keep thinking about this--wife#3 suppposedly speaks 6 languages. that would have made (Original Post) niyad Dec 2017 OP
That six languages claim is not exactly right. secondwind Dec 2017 #1
For a woman who lives in a 4-storey penthouse in NYC fierywoman Dec 2017 #4
She doesn't have to. Her parents live here. She can talk to them. No doubt they are here politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2017 #56
She has been here closer to 20 years. madaboutharry Dec 2017 #15
As you say about not necessarily completely fluent, Hortensis Dec 2017 #18
This toddwv Dec 2017 #19
me too Motley13 Dec 2017 #28
LMBO iluvtennis Dec 2017 #30
LOL and thanks Cha! treestar Dec 2017 #47
Someone did a video on it treestar Dec 2017 #44
She knows swears words Dotard does not know. Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #2
pretty sure my friend's parrot does, as well. niyad Dec 2017 #5
Donny Dollhands NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #3
I hope you are not holding your breath. niyad Dec 2017 #6
Donny Dollhands* !!! Achilleaze Dec 2017 #53
It Adds Up Perfectly If... Leith Dec 2017 #7
true. many have said that she is his handler. niyad Dec 2017 #8
Yes, I've seen that several times too... liberalla Dec 2017 #40
I think her main language is body language, so to speak elfin Dec 2017 #9
agreed. and, again without a link, I have read where barron speaks english and slovenian. niyad Dec 2017 #11
check out this guy fierywoman Dec 2017 #10
thank you. could not get the first video, but the second was very interesting. niyad Dec 2017 #12
The first video was a "blank" (same as second). What no one speaks about is fierywoman Dec 2017 #13
you are quite correct. niyad Dec 2017 #14
Not exactly true. Myrddin Dec 2017 #42
Got it -- thanks for the info. Was thinking of a Polish friend previous fierywoman Dec 2017 #50
Slavic languages have a lot in common Retrograde Dec 2017 #54
Yeeeeeah Nope. She doesnt speak those languages. nolabear Dec 2017 #22
+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #25
Good find. I'd seen that before but didn't know where to find it treestar Dec 2017 #45
Well she is a top tier trophy wife (in his eyes) Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #16
So, this is a good opportunity for dump to move on to another pussy? erronis Dec 2017 #36
Totally, if you are going to marry for money treestar Dec 2017 #46
She also lied about having a degree in Architecture madaboutharry Dec 2017 #17
I remember that Architecture degree being on her website right before GOP convention... iluvtennis Dec 2017 #31
right after they LittleGirl Dec 2017 #33
Yep, I think the plagiarized MO speech kicked off the credentials validation. nt iluvtennis Dec 2017 #35
I think so too. n/t LittleGirl Dec 2017 #37
I can speak six languages, too. hamsterjill Dec 2017 #20
I count eight languages ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #23
It's so hard to be humble!!!! LOL hamsterjill Dec 2017 #26
I can ask for a beer Retrograde Dec 2017 #55
Chumpy lied again? Whodathunkit? MoonRiver Dec 2017 #21
Make it 7 languages. She speaks Dotard too. MyNameGoesHere Dec 2017 #24
she is complete bullshit, just like his "success" Skittles Dec 2017 #27
catching on--Ivana too librechik Dec 2017 #29
I can order beer in 6 languages. progressoid Dec 2017 #32
Damn Furener.... paleotn Dec 2017 #34
I went to... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #38
She IS a foreign intelligence employee lanlady Dec 2017 #39
Trump's handler. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #41
there is no proof she speaks any more than 2 languages and she lied about College JI7 Dec 2017 #43
In the Balkans, it's not unusual to know a smattering of five languages or more DFW Dec 2017 #48
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #49
In primary school in the Netherlands, Turbineguy Dec 2017 #51
It is possible she is an agent. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #52
Remember how Putin looked at her? ocd liberal Dec 2017 #57
yes, that was disturbing. niyad Dec 2017 #58

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. That six languages claim is not exactly right.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

She knows a little of this, and a little of that.

And for a woman who has been here over 12 years or more, her English is lousy

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
56. She doesn't have to. Her parents live here. She can talk to them. No doubt they are here
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

through the same channels that brought all those other immigrants here that their 'son-in-law' talks about and disparages.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. As you say about not necessarily completely fluent,
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

and being able to communicate in 5 and 6 is not uncommon for that part of the world and others with various languages spoken by overlapping populations.

During college years in California I was acquainted with a bunch of people who spoke several languages. Four was too ordinary to comment on. Six and seven were the upper range of what I ran into, comparatively few but not to the point of being strange.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
19. This
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 04:18 PM
Dec 2017

There is little compelling language that she speaks more than a couple, which is a better achievement than many Americans but doesn't quite make her the linguistic genius that they bill her as.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. Someone did a video on it
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 07:09 AM
Dec 2017

It is on you-tube. They noted that in France and Italy she used the greetings, but then spoke English with the people she was interacting with. It seemed she would have used the languages for the conversations if she really spoke much of them.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. Donny Dollhands
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 03:19 PM
Dec 2017

was also supposed to update us on her immigration status many months ago now as well.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
53. Donny Dollhands* !!!
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:40 PM
Dec 2017

The republican family-values role model has a bigly number of skanky epithets.

* aka Donny Two Scoops, Comrade Casino, and the ignoble republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

elfin

(6,262 posts)
9. I think her main language is body language, so to speak
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

Nabbed her a rich guy, who has his own problems with English. Otherwise, think Slovenian is still the real main one, and presumably the one she uses to converse with her parents who now live here and Barron from what I have read - sorry, no link for that.

I do think she has a bit more than a smattering in others, given growing up in an area that encouraged that. However, they are most probably Slavic varaiations, with some Italian thrown in due to her "career" in modeling.

But yes, useful as an FSB (KGB) operative.

fierywoman

(7,688 posts)
13. The first video was a "blank" (same as second). What no one speaks about is
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 03:39 PM
Dec 2017

that I bet you M speaks a fair amount of Russian since all kids who grew up in the Communist block when she did learned Russian in school.

Myrddin

(327 posts)
42. Not exactly true.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 06:15 AM
Dec 2017

My wife is Russian, we have many friends in Serbia who are of an age to have been schooled during soviet times, few speak Russian, though the Slavic root allows them to mostly 'get by' conversing in their own respective languages.

Similarly, in other "Communist block" countries, where we have travelled, only a minority of people speak Russian. They're more likely to be able to speak English, or German, in our experience?

However, your assertion would be correct when referring to former 'Soviet' states where Russian was given much higher profile.

Retrograde

(10,143 posts)
54. Slavic languages have a lot in common
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:42 PM
Dec 2017

My grandmother, whose first language was Polish, could converse with her Russian-speaking neighbor, each speaking their own language. The fine points of grammar are different, but the basic words have a lot in common so it's possible to get the general meaning even if you don't catch all the nuance.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
45. Good find. I'd seen that before but didn't know where to find it
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 07:19 AM
Dec 2017

Very telling. He's right. You'd show off and start really talking.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
16. Well she is a top tier trophy wife (in his eyes)
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 04:10 PM
Dec 2017

So the more skills and "features" she can display the better I guess. What a shitty husband to snag, bet she wishes she got some out-of-the limelight billionaire instead.

erronis

(15,323 posts)
36. So, this is a good opportunity for dump to move on to another pussy?
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 06:01 PM
Dec 2017

"I thought she spoke a bunch of languages. She lied - wotta loser.. She's fired."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. Totally, if you are going to marry for money
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 07:22 AM
Dec 2017

There had to have been better choices for her. The Dotard's other qualities sink any advantage his money might provide.

madaboutharry

(40,216 posts)
17. She also lied about having a degree in Architecture
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 04:13 PM
Dec 2017

from "University in Slovenia." There is no such degree. According to the faculty at the University of Ljublijana, Melania dropped out during her freshman year.

The White House now claims that "she paused her studies" to pursue a modeling career.

iluvtennis

(19,865 posts)
31. I remember that Architecture degree being on her website right before GOP convention...
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 05:44 PM
Dec 2017

...they immediately took down the website when media started investigating Melania's credentials

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
20. I can speak six languages, too.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 04:21 PM
Dec 2017

•BONJOUR – French.
•HOLA – Spanish.
•HALLO / GUTEN TAG – German.
•CIAO – Italian.
•OLÀ – Portuguese.
•NAMASTE – Hindi.
•SALAAM – Persian (Farsi)


You see, BRAGGING about it and being able to ACTUALLY DO IT are two separate things. And I'm guessing that Melania and Orange Ass having the bragging in common. Has anyone seen her actually conversing in six languages?

Retrograde

(10,143 posts)
55. I can ask for a beer
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:47 PM
Dec 2017

in English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian, German, Dutch, Danish, Polish, Norwegian, and Danish. I concentrate on learning the important things first

Skittles

(153,174 posts)
27. she is complete bullshit, just like his "success"
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 05:34 PM
Dec 2017

he has to make her out like she is a multi-lingual architect - get real, she is the ultimate gold digger

librechik

(30,676 posts)
29. catching on--Ivana too
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 05:37 PM
Dec 2017

Trump such a corrupt tool. For decades. Why did the MIC let this happen???

better war profits when chaos reigns.

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
38. I went to...
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 06:12 PM
Dec 2017

...college level in French and had to get a multi-language credential later, to teach. She is not at all fluent in French. She doesn't sound fluent in anything - but she does have good communication skills in English, for a second language learner.

lanlady

(7,135 posts)
39. She IS a foreign intelligence employee
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 07:45 PM
Dec 2017

But not of this country’s service. I suspect she’s always been on the payroll of an East European intel service controlled by Moscow.

As far as I know, she speaks her native language, Slovenian, halting English, and probably has a smattering of Russian. That’s it. She lied about having a university degree, she can lie about anything.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
48. In the Balkans, it's not unusual to know a smattering of five languages or more
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 08:00 AM
Dec 2017

That in no way implies fluency. I know a guy from Slovenia who knows a few words of English, a few words of Hungarian, a few words of Russian, a few words of Italian, and fluent German (as well as Slovenian). But DUH! Slovenia is a small country that borders on Italy, Austria, Hungary and Croatia. It is less than 200 miles from the Italian border in the west to the Hungarian border in the east. Slovenian is close enough to Croatian and Serbian that they can speak their own languages to each other without having to translate, much like Norwegians and Swedes. In many parts of Europe, you HAVE to know a smattering of other languages due to sheer geographical necessity. For my work, I have to know, among others, rudimentary Polish. But I never say I can speak it because once a simple conversation starts up, I'm lost. Polish is different enough from Russian that they are not mutually intelligible. I can also say enough words in Turkish and Hungarian to impress taxi drivers, but that's about the extent of them for me. I don't speak them because I can't carry on a conversation in them.

By the way, speaking a number of languages doesn't automatically mean that intelligence agencies stand in line to enlist your services. I speak, read and write nine European languages, eight of which are not English. Big deal. Neither the NSA nor the State Department has called yet. I live in a country that borders on ten other countries, many of which I travel to frequently for work. I'd be an idiot if I didn't learn their languages. That doesn't make me a genius, it's plain common sense. There are other professions besides spying and tour guides where that kind of skill proves useful.

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Turbineguy

(37,361 posts)
51. In primary school in the Netherlands,
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:33 PM
Dec 2017

we took French. In secondary school we took French, English and Latin, later added German and Greek.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
52. It is possible she is an agent.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:33 PM
Dec 2017

There are KGB agents all over this country. Hell, some of them BORN here.

Some are working voting precincts, handling computers and counting votes.

Some are on radio, some are in our highest levels of government and I dont mean just Trump.

What has been going on for decades, deep level spying and manipulation, is only coming to light now because of the Trump connection to the KGB, but it has been a major operation here for a long time.

Are there thousands of on the ground KGB agents or people who have been compromised by the KGB? Yeah, thousands for sure.

ocd liberal

(407 posts)
57. Remember how Putin looked at her?
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 04:12 PM
Dec 2017

He looked at Melania like he knew her and that she was doing a great job.

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