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babylonsister

(171,091 posts) Wed Dec 27, 2017, 06:14 PM Dec 2017

House Intel panel subpoenas McCain associate over Trump dossier

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/366614-house-intel-panel-subpoenas-mccain-associate-over-trump-dossier

House Intel panel subpoenas McCain associate over Trump dossier
By Olivia Beavers - 12/27/17 04:21 PM EST

The House Intelligence Committee has issued a subpoena to an associate of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) over his connection with the controversial dossier containing unverified allegations about President Trump and his ties to Russia, The Hill confirmed on Wednesday.

Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) wants to talk to David Kramer, a former State Department official and current senior director at the nonprofit McCain Institute, about his visit to London in November 2016, a source familiar with the matter confirmed.

The Washington Examiner's Byron York first reported on the subpoena.

While in London, Kramer met with the dossier's author, former British spy Christopher Steele, at McCain's request, to view “the pre-election memoranda on a confidential basis,” according to court filings.

Kramer then flew back to the U.S. and delivered a copy of the memos to McCain, who then handed the documents to the FBI.

The subpoena for Kramer to appear before House investigators on Jan. 11 comes after he met with the panel earlier this month.

The dossier has long been a key interest of Republicans, who want to find out if its claims were used as the basis for a surveillance warrant on Trump campaign associates.

Democrats, on the other hand, are interested to learn whether the allegations made against the president in the dossier are true.

Certain parts of the dossier have either been confirmed or proven false, while other parts of the memo compilation remain unverified.

The Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign partly funded the dossier, created by the opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

Trump has resoundingly dismissed the memo as "fake."

A spokeswoman for McCain's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

— Updated: 4:44 p.m.

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House Intel panel subpoenas McCain associate over Trump dossier (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2017 OP

This is the first I've heard of this: Control-Z Dec 2017 #1

Yeah, I heard something like that the Ilsa Dec 2017 #2

Yes, that is all I've EVER heard. Control-Z Dec 2017 #3

This is how the reps respond to this sarah FAILIN Dec 2017 #4

The writer needs to be Control-Z Dec 2017 #5

I *think* there was only one thing Ghost Owl Dec 2017 #6

Rachel had something on this sarah FAILIN Dec 2017 #7

Thanks for the reply, Ghost Owl. Control-Z Dec 2017 #9

The only thing about this that I've seen to be proven false MurrayDelph Dec 2017 #8

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)

1. This is the first I've heard of this:

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 10:07 PM

Dec 2017

Certain parts of the dossier have either been confirmed or proven false, while other parts of the memo compilation remain unverified.

What in the dossier has been proven false? Does anyone know?

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)

2. Yeah, I heard something like that the

Reply to Control-Z (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 10:15 PM

Dec 2017

Other day, but I did not trust the source. I had heard that nothing in the dossier had been proven to be false, but some things could not be verified.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)

3. Yes, that is all I've EVER heard.

Reply to Ilsa (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 10:29 PM

Dec 2017

I think this needs to be questioned.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)

4. This is how the reps respond to this

Reply to Control-Z (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 10:41 PM

Dec 2017

They just claim this, no proof at all. They just refuse to accept that parts of it have been verified and change it around to assume the rest was proven false when in reality we don't have proof one way or the other of the hookers story which everyone refers to as the "salacious" parts of the story.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)

5. The writer needs to be

Reply to sarah FAILIN (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:00 PM

Dec 2017

taken to task on this. It is one of the ways the lies get started. It needs to be corrected or supported with facts.

I was looking for the writer's email earlier but didn't find it. I'll try looking again later.

Ghost Owl

(59 posts)

6. I *think* there was only one thing

Reply to Control-Z (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:08 PM

Dec 2017

and it wasn't so much wrong as POSSIBLY a case of mistaken identity. One of the times the dossier claims Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was in Prague, he may not have been, but another Michael Cohen (with the same birth year) was in Prague at the time.

I don't know if they ever tracked down that Michael Cohen to confirm. But as we saw with Paul Manafort, these people often have multiple passports. Maybe it was Trump's Michael Cohen using his Collusion Passport. I don't know.

But even that detail isn't WRONG wrong, it would just be the wrong Micheal Cohen. Which would be a crazy random happenstance, that another person with the same name and birth year of a Trump lawyer meeting Russians in Prague, just happens to ALSO visit Prague during the same time the campaign was colluding.

(I don't even know if this was ever confirmed by the Investigation, or just the media, I remember seeing Jake Tapper talking about it)

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)

7. Rachel had something on this

Reply to Ghost Owl (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:23 PM

Dec 2017

Trumps lawyer flashed his passport and it showed that he had been in an adjoining country at the time then they found out that nobody stamps passports if you are driving in from one country to another. Basically nothing was disproved on this issue considering everything.
Over there it is not like going to a different country is the undertaking it is here. I would have to drive a couple of days to get to another country from my home.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)

9. Thanks for the reply, Ghost Owl.

Reply to Ghost Owl (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:07 AM

Dec 2017

I guess only the writer really knows what she was referring to. But if your example is her proof of anything other than an odd little coinky dinky she is intentionally misleading us. I'm sick to death of all the lies and deceit.

Now I'm off to look for her email again.

MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)

8. The only thing about this that I've seen to be proven false

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:53 PM

Dec 2017

is Devin Nunes's alleged recusal.

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