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pnwmom

(108,999 posts)
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 04:58 PM Dec 2017

Have an existing home equity loan? You won't be deducting the interest anymore.

There used to be a deduction for interest payments on loans up to $100K, but that's gone now -- for both old and new loans.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/3-upcoming-tax-changes-homeowners-145400633.html

3. Interest on home equity loans will no longer be deductible

Home equity loans have long served as a key source of financing for homeowners, and up until now, homeowners could deduct interest on loans worth up to $100,000. Under the new tax changes, however, this provision is going away and home equity loan interest will no longer be deductible at all. Furthermore, whereas homeowners with existing mortgages are grandfathered into the old laws, home equity loan holders don't get that same leeway. This means that if you have a home equity loan and were counting on writing off its interest next year, you'd better think again.

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Have an existing home equity loan? You won't be deducting the interest anymore. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2017 OP
The real Kicker is, Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #1
Hmmm. Maybe this is a good thing then fescuerescue Dec 2017 #11
Could be, Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #12
Not entirely gone, it will be limited quartz007 Dec 2017 #2
The MEDIAN home price in Seattle now is $720K now. They're not all rich. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #3
To afford buying a $720k house, quartz007 Dec 2017 #4
Most of these homeowners bought their homes when they were worth much less. pnwmom Dec 2017 #5
Come on, a new roof does not cost quartz007 Dec 2017 #6
Do you think construction and repair costs in Seattle are the same as in lower cost areas? pnwmom Dec 2017 #7
Are you confusing the 10k SALT/mortgage interest cap with HELOC deductibility? MissB Dec 2017 #8
Yes indeed! quartz007 Dec 2017 #9
Glad I could clear that up! Going to be a big hit and not just those with HELOCs. MissB Dec 2017 #10
A win by new home construction Lobby! quartz007 Dec 2017 #13
This will piss off people Gothmog Dec 2017 #14
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. The real Kicker is,
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:06 PM
Dec 2017

the Major Mortgage Pushers were ready to launch a big push to market Seconds and Third mortgages. Shades of 2005.

One of our largest Credit Unions rolled out a Promo pushing these mortgages just before Xmas. Ouch!!!

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
11. Hmmm. Maybe this is a good thing then
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:58 PM
Dec 2017

Bad for the banks, maybe its a good thing long term to slow down borrowing.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Could be,
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:06 PM
Dec 2017

think it happened by accident,don't think the Banker and Real Estate Lobbyist wanted this result. These Seconds and Thirds were one of the main reasons the Housing Bubble blew the last time around. Got's ta get me them new toys. Yupper,pay cash,the piggy bank ain't going away any time soon. We all saw what happened.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
2. Not entirely gone, it will be limited
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:07 PM
Dec 2017

to $10,000 starting in 2018 tax year. This change will mainly affect middle class in high tax states such as CA, NY, CT etc.

If you are paying in excess of $10,000 in mortgage interest in WA state, you have to be a rich person. Because WA state has no state income tax.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
4. To afford buying a $720k house,
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

conventional wisdom says you need income of 1/4 to 1/3 the price of house, meaning yearly income of at least $180k. That is not middle class in my book. You are right, housing in Seattle is red hot, and in a bubble. Here in Florida you can buy a brand new 4 bed room house for under $300k except in areas like Miami & Tampa. I sold my condo 35 miles north of Seattle for 50% profit last year after owning it for 4.5 years.

What percentage of Seattle people make $180-$200k? My guess is not many. Which means house prices have outpaced incomes. That is exactly what happened before last housing crash of 2010-2011.

pnwmom

(108,999 posts)
5. Most of these homeowners bought their homes when they were worth much less.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:31 PM
Dec 2017

And they might need a home equity loan just to put on a new roof, but at least they could deduct the costs of the interest. Now they won't be able to.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
6. Come on, a new roof does not cost
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:34 PM
Dec 2017

much more than $15-30k depending on size of a middle class home. Interest at 6% on that loan would be $1500/year, which is way below the $10,000 deduction allowed in 2018.

pnwmom

(108,999 posts)
7. Do you think construction and repair costs in Seattle are the same as in lower cost areas?
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:45 PM
Dec 2017

But I'd like to know where you are getting your information about the $10K limit. This is what the article stated:

Under the new tax changes, however, this provision is going away and home equity loan interest will no longer be deductible at all.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
8. Are you confusing the 10k SALT/mortgage interest cap with HELOC deductibility?
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:11 PM
Dec 2017

There will be a $10,000 cap on mortgage interest plus state and local tax deductions. But the Home equity line of credits will no longer be deductible.

So that $1,500 interest each year does reproesent a tax increase (not $1500 increase but an increase based on the person’s tax rate.)

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
9. Yes indeed!
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:30 PM
Dec 2017

I have not read the details of the tax bill,
so I was thinking the $10k limit applied to all
deductions including SALT, mortgage, and any
other loans. Excluding home equity credit is
social engineering pushed by lobbyists. I do not
like it. Thanks for clearing that up.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
10. Glad I could clear that up! Going to be a big hit and not just those with HELOCs.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:36 PM
Dec 2017

The remodeling industry must be furious.

I need a new roof next year and was always going to be paying for it in cash (we’ve been saving for years and it’s time to schedule that project). Not sure if we will pay less next summer compared to previous years. If we could wait for another year it may be a cheaper project, but... the roof needs replacing.

Of course some roofing companies now provide financing which seems strange to me.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
13. A win by new home construction Lobby!
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:42 PM
Dec 2017

And good luck with that roof project.

In the past, I was able to repair (not replace) roofs by applying generous amounts of sealant on a flat roof of a condo building with 10 units on each floor. The condo management brought in 3 roofers for bids, and of course they all wanted to install a new roof. We took a vote of unit owners and they gave me go ahead to try sealing first, and it worked. So we spent $500 instead of $100,000.

Never had a leak with a sloping roof on individual homes we have owned, but imagine a sealant would be even more effective. Of course I no longer climb roofs being in my 70's haha..

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