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burnbaby

(685 posts)
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:31 AM Dec 2017

I finally got health insurance

only because I got a full time job. It was tough going two years without insurance and for those of you who don't have insurance did you know
1. Dr. office visits are 40% off if you don't have insurance
2. Lab work is also 40% off too
3. Emergency room is also 40% off

I'm not sure if this is universal. I didn't know it until I started racking up health bills then I got that call from UCONN looking for their money. Once the person on the other end of the phone realized I was without insurance he lowered all my bills by 40%

I also ate differently (these things I hope to continue) and took herbs. When I felt sick I would google different foods and herbs to prevent my sickness from getting worse.

maybe this will help someone not insured.

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I finally got health insurance (Original Post) burnbaby Dec 2017 OP
Not having to worry about being uninsured will make a major improvement to your health, too.... marble falls Dec 2017 #1
I wish I had known burnbaby Dec 2017 #2
I just signed up with Obamacare. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #3
I couldn't afford ACA burnbaby Dec 2017 #4
Wow that is a lot! PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #5
That's truly shocking. My sister got quotes like that but she's a self employed attorney who does.. marble falls Dec 2017 #8
they base it off of your salary burnbaby Dec 2017 #9
Like my sister. She stayed with the insurance she had because the duductable was lower and no co-pay marble falls Dec 2017 #14
You estimate your yearly income and adjust payment accordingly, from what I have seen. Anny61 Dec 2017 #24
When your income goes down the subsidy goes up. Merlot Dec 2017 #28
My ACA Silver premium is $125 a month with a $2500 deductible jpak Dec 2017 #11
congrats to you burnbaby Dec 2017 #12
So much depends on where you live Maeve Dec 2017 #16
Welcome to DU,,,,,Comrade! Cryptoad Dec 2017 #35
Google this: hospital rates for uninsured progree Dec 2017 #6
Is this a great country Scarsdale Dec 2017 #15
Why not the USA? Greed. Power. Control. Mostly Greed. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #19
How did your house payment go up $60/mo ? dumbcat Dec 2017 #20
Free market solution blah blah blah blah Saviolo Dec 2017 #22
I got the exact same SS 'raise' LOL pangaia Dec 2017 #27
My HARP mortgage Scarsdale Dec 2017 #36
I haven't had health insurance in nine yrs. Luckily, I also haven't SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #7
wow burnbaby Dec 2017 #10
I'm sure I'll sign up for it, I'm just a little hesitant, because Republicans. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #17
You should bother. Medicare is great. At least get "grandfathered" in to it. Glorfindel Dec 2017 #13
My husband has Medicare and it paid for all of his radiation treatments SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #18
YES, do 'bother.' pangaia Dec 2017 #29
I will. I am lucky to be eligible. Didn't mean to sound otherwise. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #37
Glad to hear it Victor_c3 Dec 2017 #21
K&R! Omaha Steve Dec 2017 #23
they sure as fuck don't give that discount to all... dembotoz Dec 2017 #25
Congrats on the job and the health insurance! IronLionZion Dec 2017 #26
40% off is not a rule, you got a break Merlot Dec 2017 #30
please don't associate burnbaby Dec 2017 #32
I wasn't associating you with repubs Merlot Dec 2017 #33
"would $600K be an ok amount?". Anything less than a million is just an accounting annoyance to me progree Dec 2017 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #31
I was charged about 10 times what insurance companies are charged elmac Dec 2017 #34

marble falls

(57,263 posts)
1. Not having to worry about being uninsured will make a major improvement to your health, too....
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:38 AM
Dec 2017

Hospital prices are not carved in stone, you can still argue for reduced deductible exposure and any contribution your insurance requires you to pay for your visits. A lot of Doctors will waive your portion of the office visits, too.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
2. I wish I had known
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:45 AM
Dec 2017

these sorts of things during my being uninsured. I only went to the Dr. or hospital when it was an emergency, but had I have known what you just said I would have done my yearly exams

marble falls

(57,263 posts)
8. That's truly shocking. My sister got quotes like that but she's a self employed attorney who does..
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:58 AM
Dec 2017

make a good living.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
9. they base it off of your salary
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:01 AM
Dec 2017

so while I was contracting the money was good and if I could have sustained permanent contracts I could understand the amount. It was never taken under consideration when I wasn't working and had no income

marble falls

(57,263 posts)
14. Like my sister. She stayed with the insurance she had because the duductable was lower and no co-pay
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:16 AM
Dec 2017
 

Anny61

(100 posts)
24. You estimate your yearly income and adjust payment accordingly, from what I have seen.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:16 AM
Dec 2017

But $800. a month suggests it is for more than one person, too. Was it only for you?

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
16. So much depends on where you live
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:23 AM
Dec 2017

As well as your income and age--in Central Ohio for '18, my choices were all HMOs--choose which hospital system you want to use. We chose a Bronze for $89 a month for the two of us, but higher deductible and out-of-pocket max (we hit that this year in a different plan with one emergency surgery). With luck, we won't need much and can pay down this year's expenses.

progree

(10,920 posts)
6. Google this: hospital rates for uninsured
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:54 AM
Dec 2017

as an example of how they gouge the uninsured.

Medical providers have lots of prices, so a 40% discount to something that is way more than what insurance companies are charged is not a bargain.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
15. Is this a great country
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:23 AM
Dec 2017

or what?? I just got a raise on my Social Security. A whole $11 a month. What should I blow it on? Oh, yes, my house payment went up $60 a month so there is that. The fight for universal health care would be fantastic. Other countries manage it for their citizens, why not the USA?

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
20. How did your house payment go up $60/mo ?
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:58 AM
Dec 2017

That's $720/yr. Did your house insurance or property tax go up that much? That's a lot.

And my Soc. Sec. raise went entirely to my Medicare premium, but I still have to pay fed income tax on 85% of the increase that I didn't get.

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
22. Free market solution blah blah blah blah
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:05 AM
Dec 2017

Too many American politicians read both Ayn Rand and Adam Smith, embraced the first, and did not understand the second in any way whatsoever, so of course they all worship "rugged individuality" in the form of deregulation and their favourite catch-phrase "free market solutions." Because health care for all would be akin to slavery, y'see. You'd be forcing doctors work for you without pay, and that's just as good as stealing! And I can't believe that's the actual right-wing talking point about this, because that is so disingenuous on the face of it, I can't believe anyone says it with a straight face, but:

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/05/paul-right-to-health-care-is-slavery-054769

“With regard to the idea whether or not you have a right to health care you have to realize what that implies. I am a physician. You have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery. You are going to enslave not only me but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants, the nurses. … You are basically saying you believe in slavery,” said Paul (R-Ky.), who is an ophthalmologist.


Truth of the matter is, regulation can spur innovation. This has been floating around on my Twitter feed lately:




In US, average MRI costs $1k. In Japan, it’s set at $105 by the government and providers compete on margin. This led providers to go to Toshiba and demand an inexpensive MRI scanner. MRI scanners in Japan now cost $150k, 10% of the cost in the US. Regulation drove innovation.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. I got the exact same SS 'raise' LOL
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:52 AM
Dec 2017

Why did your house payment go up? If you own, do you have a variable rate mortgage?

Or did rent go up?

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
7. I haven't had health insurance in nine yrs. Luckily, I also haven't
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:55 AM
Dec 2017

been sick nor have I had any injuries. Of course I also haven't had any checkups or exams in that time either, so there's that. I am eligible for Medicare in March but if the REPUBLICANS are going to end that or turn into a voucher program not sure if I should even bother.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
10. wow
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:06 AM
Dec 2017

I was very concerned about not getting my annual check ups. I'm afraid now for when I go.

No one is going to do anything with Medicare, is my thought. If republicans try and touch it no one would ever vote for them.

I started working in the early 80s and have been hearing SS is going away Medicare is going away. I think when you hear the same things for a few decades eventually you just stop believing in it

Glorfindel

(9,736 posts)
13. You should bother. Medicare is great. At least get "grandfathered" in to it.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:10 AM
Dec 2017

Even the pukes won't end Medicare in three months. If it does turn into a voucher program, it will probably be for new participants, not for existing accounts.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
18. My husband has Medicare and it paid for all of his radiation treatments
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:25 AM
Dec 2017

for prostate cancer. I know how great it is....for now.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
21. Glad to hear it
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM
Dec 2017

I always thought that health insurance being linked to employment with certain employers was an absurd idea.

Disconnect the two and thing will be easier and better for both business and the people.

IronLionZion

(45,540 posts)
26. Congrats on the job and the health insurance!
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:29 AM
Dec 2017

I've been there recently. It's rough. Googling home remedies for stuff because I couldn't afford a doctor or prescriptions. Trying to cook vegetables and exercise between bouts of sitting at home feeling frustrated with my life.

It's tough but very important to keep a positive attitude.



Merlot

(9,696 posts)
30. 40% off is not a rule, you got a break
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:00 PM
Dec 2017

Each doctors office, hospital or collection agency will determine how much they will accept as payment, and some won't budge on the amount.

I once asked a specialist if they would reduce the price because I was uninsured and they said if they did that the insurance company would drop them as a provider.

And being uninsured, you're paying such jacked up prices that 40% off is probably still not as low as an insured person would pay. Plus, the insured person is only paying a percentage, the insurance company pays the rest.

Suggesting that you can get an automatic discount because you're uninsured is as irresponsible as the repubs who say just go to the emergency room, it's freeeeee! That debt can and will follow you for life.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
32. please don't associate
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:09 PM
Dec 2017

me with repubs, and if you read my full post I did state

I'm not sure if this is universal. I didn't know it until I started racking up health bills then I got that call from UCONN looking for their money. Once the person on the other end of the phone realized I was without insurance he lowered all my bills by 40%

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
33. I wasn't associating you with repubs
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:16 PM
Dec 2017

I did read your post. Just becasue you got a deal from UCONN doesn't mean that everyone else will. Also, what if your medical bills had been a million dollars and you go a 40% discount, would $600K be an ok amount?

progree

(10,920 posts)
38. "would $600K be an ok amount?". Anything less than a million is just an accounting annoyance to me
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:07 PM
Dec 2017

Response to burnbaby (Original post)

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
34. I was charged about 10 times what insurance companies are charged
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
Dec 2017

for an e room visit back in 2011. I looked it up. I understand that this is the norm, if uninsured they can charge whatever their hearts desire. Don't expect much help from DR or hospitals. Best bet is to get care through clinics, most charge on what you can afford.

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