Rec

They really are evil.

So, no.

I have no language anymore to describe them. That is how horrible they are.

...took a decided turn towards the dark side with the sElection of tRump*. And you are correct, you cannot work with evil. There is no middle ground. And you are also correct: our spirits of cooperation and collaboration are being weaponized and used against us.

No further.

need to be thought of as an evil enemy. Most in the US have never faced anything like this invasion force into our political system. It is evil and spooky as hell. And might not end well unless citizens get their sh** together and pay attention. Far too many IMO think it will blow over.

I agree. This is a sea change. It isn't going to blow over without incredibly strong blowback, the sort we had when people were storming the airports.

Everyone is so exhausted and shell shocked from the daily bomb shells. The media has normalized him.
There are jokes and he is disgusting and stupid, but since he doubles down on his persona ever day, it is another eye rolling event.

cult leader. One has to call it for what it is. Now, it's a shame a good potion of the US will be run over by them because they could not comprehend the warning flags, because they drank the propaganda.

In fact, evil may be too kind of a word

I'm an atheist, but there are many good lines in the Bible.
So yeah, they are evil incarnate.

doing so. In the process, they took away the help that children and the elderly need to survive. For instance, cutting food stamps from $100/month to $14-18 or thereabouts. Cutting healthcare for babies and children. Many, many, many more programs for the poor were cut or eliminated. All done with a big grin and a huge gift with a bow for the wealthy and corporations' of millions of dollars all the time professing to be such good Christians. Now, they are focusing on Medicaid. That is much more than evil. It is criminal, or certainly should be.

Don't punish your conscience by giving them one iota of queasiness.

But when you say you want to work together, they call you a "Sissy". That's the way they are. They want absolute power to control everything. That's why they love tRump; he never backs down and says he will punch back ten times harder. Bipartisanship is a ruse, and we must shun them when they try to get cozy. This is war and there can be only one winner. I know you don't want war, but they have chosen that path.

"They" are cult followers and "their" feeling of power is purely vicarious.

They think he is just like them, the underdog, the maverick (strange how that term keeps popping up in the republican camp). "They" are the Richard Spencer types. "They" are the ones who yell at Muslims on the subway. They feel empowered now, free to intimidate anyone they want. Of course "they" really don't have any more power than before, but they certainly act like they do.

they want more foodstamps for tbe poor. The cry it only if they are losing on a point. It is a total lie when they pretend to want it.

They are evil. I've never known a Repub who didn't lie,
especially this modern day breed of Repubs,
and I have some family members who are Repubs, some of whom I care for. It is tense the last couple of years when we are together.

Like Trump, they play it as they go, and say whatever they need to get the objective they want from any situation. My bro is a Repub. He can do some good things, but he always exploits the credit. He lies more than he tells the truth. I've worked and done sports with Repubs, and they make shit up to prove their points. One was telling me about a guy that told him, that he and his friends and family voted twice...voter fraud. Upon the slightest cross examination, his stupid example story fell apart. I see them do that sort of thing all of the time.

It is insulting that they think we are too stupid to see through their transparency. Yet, they are too stupid to realize how full of holes their arguments are. Then, they go ballistic with righteousness when they are caught red handed.

selfish, short-sighted and hypocritical.

I don't give them the benefit of implying some kind of supernatural, malevolent genius.

They are just the worst of what is human.

Nothing you can say can convince me that you don't know.

Trump voters, what?

It's hard to believe that an entire political party has been taken over by people who are literally evil. However, the facts point that way.

I can live without the affirmation but if I can get it then why not?

Confronting evil isn't easy.

Trump and his apparent co-conspirators?

The GOP leadership, including Ryan and McConnell?

You don't need a definition. That is part of my statement.

And an opportunist. And I would call much of the GOP leadership con men and women, and opportunists.

Does that make them evil?

An interesting question.

I don't see any.

I hear Repubs talk a lot about moochers and leaches.

Yet, they just got huge exemptions from paying taxes...estate tax reprieve, etc.

They are worthless shrieking soulless spawns of hell. They are driving our country into the Swamp of Sadness, except for the Deplorables, who will soon pick up their rifles and start killing liberals on the street.

Dumpster is the embodiment of evil. He doesn't even care what he's doing. Just running his despicable con as he's done all his worthless, fat orange life.

Including doubt.

I don't even begin to think I have enough insight into them as individuals to know if they are evil or not. The overwhelming majority of people are a mix of good and bad. My maternal grandfather was a staunch Republican, but ran the local Meals on Wheels program, did everything for my grandmother when she was dying (in spite of my grandmother saying things like she never loved him), would give anybody the shirt off his back. How do you judge one act against another in judging the totality of somebody's life in terms of lumping them into a category like good or evil? Were people who merely went about their lives in Nazi Germany evil for not trying to stop the Holocaust? People in the U.S. who didn't own slaves but didn't start revolts to try to free slaves?

Life is complicated. It's easy to lump people you don't like into the category of morally evil. But that just serves to separate you from them. We all have the capacity to make wrong choices. I've made boatloads of them. Instead the key to not doing bad things isn't assuming our own moral superiority and thus incapable of being evil.

Fascism is subversive.

This new breed of Trumpsters, Fox News Repubs, are very different, from our Repub grandfathers. Even the Bushes don't want to be associated with them.

We are completely polarized now. These Repubs don't care who they hurt, children, refugees without homes, ...

It's about money and class superiority. Fuck you if you aren't wealthy. I don't like them, and they don't like me...instantly.

Cheating and lying helped.

Call it what it is, without reservation.

In the early years, no one knew how far Hitler would go. By the time the world knew it was too late.

We've just seen Trump's first year. And we don't want to go where he's planning to take us.

I don't like to play word games with myself to soften things. Life's too short to fool around with that. Can't address something is one cannot even name it.

Just knowing that makes me quite ill.

I do not feel queasy stating the facts.

They are evil and they are the enemy !!!!!!!!!

it's doing bad things that hurt people and ENJOYING it.
So, yes, Trump & Company qualify.

what the evil assholes are doing to our People, our Country and our Planet.

They have earned total condemnation and from the near unanimity here they have it. I.am there, in spite of my uneasiness.

I just never envisioned their extremism and am in some kind of denial that they are as evil as I know them to be. It is sad. Their moderates are so few and so far between. God willing we will destroy them in November. Total defeat is the only language they will understand.

it is really the only word that truly encompasses what they want to do to us and our nation.

There is no middle ground, because to them, compromise is getting everything they want and having our guys vote for it.

By the analysis, I mean it doesn't increase our understanding. For example, if you want to try to predict what Trump will do about something, don't figure out what he ought to do and then predict the opposite. That's comic-book thinking. I'd look instead at his narcissism, self-delusion, short attention span, focus on what he perceives as his base, susceptibility to manipulation by those around him, etc.

By the program, I mean that I'm less concerned with appearing righteous on a Democratic message board than I am with winning elections. Calling Republicans evil is just preaching to the choir, in that it will thrill people who were already on our side anyway. To do that, we want to get some previous nonvoters to the polls and we want to flip some Trump voters. For the former group, we talk about positive things that Democrats can do if elected. For the latter group, we point out how Trump's governance has deviated so radically from his campaign rhetoric. Calling Trump "evil" doesn't help with either of those projects.

I don't call anyone "evil" lightly. I know that people are a mixture of good and evil, but in Trump and many Republicans in politics, I can't find any good. Everything they do points to a deep-seated evil.

But second, their policies and beliefs directly lead to suffering and death among Americans, AND their fascist tendencies give them the power to force those policies and beliefs on us....which is per se "evil".