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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOf these potential 2020 candidates, whom would you support and why?
Gov Andrew Cuomo NY
Gov Jay Inslee WA
Sen Kristen Gillenbrand NY
Sen Sherrod Brown OH
Rep Joe Kennedy III MA
Sen Elizabeth Warren MA
Sen Tim Kane VA
I have intentionally left out Sanders, Clinton, and Biden. We need to move forward, not backward.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I think he genuinely cares about people and our country and that would come through in a campaign. I will support whomever the nominee is and work my feet and fingers to the bone to get them elected.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)marble falls
(57,134 posts)great support system, maybe in eight or twelve years?
BTW John Kerry got robbed, too. I thought he could have been a great President.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)he is a good choice. Kennedy and Booker, maybe.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)He was probably teething on politics. Imagine the family dinner conversations he grew up exposed to. They have politics in their DNA. I think he's probably as ready for presidency as any other seasoned politician. That's an assumption, but probably accurate.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts)I have intentionally left out Biden and Clinton out of respect for the parameters you have set for your choices.
dalton99a
(81,539 posts)ADX
(1,622 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)So I'm on board.
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,437 posts)..a strong ticket; both exceptional individuals who just happen to be women ...they are the best of America...as Obama and Clinton were.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)Tikki
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Waiting to see who runs, but I really like her. And shes a good counter to Trump.
elfin
(6,262 posts)I want someone younger than 70 who knows issues in depth and has been in government long enough to know how it works and know good cabinet appointments.
Cuomo, perhaps. Kaine - nice guy, but charismatically challenged IMO. KG - no way, never, never.
Need to find out more about Inslee.
True Dough
(17,313 posts)Pete Buttigieg is in the mix. Lots of promise there.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)But I'm a fan of all of the others.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)has a chance in hell of beating Dumb-Dumb.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Warren would be great, but she could not win, beyond a Dem primary. We would lose in a landslide.
Gillibrand. Too much baggage and she has double crossed too many people. Flip flops on the issues.
Not electable. Another landslide loss.
I like Cuomo, but he generates a lot of hostility. Too risky.
Too easy to beat up.
Where is Cory Booker? Great VP
Brown has the midwest thing going for him.
Kennedy has charisma, intelligence, and he is a good speaker.
DavidDvorkin
(19,480 posts)Add him to the list.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)eringer
(460 posts)In the 2008 election, he was the only Democratic candidate that the Republicans feared. Impeccable record. Look him up.
DavidDvorkin
(19,480 posts)And they will have good reason again in 2020. My fear is that the media will destroy his candidacy again, as they did in 2016. We're already seeing him being ignored by people who should include him on their lists.
dembotoz
(16,811 posts)marble falls
(57,134 posts)and you're right: Move Forward (should be the slogan no matter which one runs).
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)under the bus. She would not have been Senator without the Clintons, but once they were not much use to her, she cashed them in to get other people firef up for another moment of personal fame. She Changes her positions and who she supports, depending on the day of the
week's opportunity.
Strike G and add Booker.
She is not electable.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)I am not sitting it out and I am not voting third party and I will not vote for Trump or any other GOP candidate.
What would you do.?
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)for her against Trump. Useless vote. She can't win. I know a past Dem Party Chair, who says, he won't vote for her because then we have no standards, just like the Repubs. I would never vote for any trumpster, of any stripe. I have never voted 3rd party. Never voted Repub for Prez. Hopefully, a few Repubs will be wearing stripes by 2020.
Booker needs to be on the list.
Love Warren, but loved her more before she rolled on Hillary and Franken. Mostly, she can't win. Hated by half the voters or more.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)to not vote and allow their candidates to win from low turnout. The problem is that when we don't vote for a candidate usually that means we aren't voting for Senators or Reps either. There was a large enough contingent of those who wouldn't vote for Hillary because they never thought anybody would elect Trump and look what we got - we lost the Senate and Trump slunk in.
I will definitely vote for Gillibrand but she's not on the short list.
I think Adam Schiff should be added to the short list, too.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)but as many have said, he doesn't have the intensity to inspire voters...who aren't yellow dogs.
I think the main question, is not who we like the best or who would be the best President...we already tried that one...but WHO CAN BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE REPUBS? We have to factor in their lying and cheating too.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)he's very careful not to interfere with Mueller's investigation.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I just question whether he can pull in the fringe voters we have to have.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)she has the strongest skill set and experience of anybody else I can think of, the things that might well have made for one of the best Presidency's ever. I supported her from the convention on. I just wish she's gone for broke in the election.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Not going into Michigan and Wisconsin, as it might shake things up...a hundred other things.
She has also been beaten up so much, she is cautious about taking risks. The thing is they were going to bomb her no matter what she did, so she needed to be a stronger freight train than her RW Haters.
Trump had nothing to lose, so he took all risks. Win, win for him.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)it shows that polls are supposed to read and not lead. Her advisers took her negative numbers too seriously. She needed to turn the undecided, the haters were never going to change either way. She could only have won.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)It could have turned out differently. If the DNC had not been in turmoil, if she had had an experienced campaign and they hadn't ignored ground troops feedback, blah, blah. I'm still angry.
Of course, there was Comey, cheating, lying....
As Obama said, and this is similar to the talk AAs have with their kids, we have to be way better than they are to win. He implied this is because of gerrymandering, they hold the cards now (all 3 branches and states), cheating, lying, etc.
They will find new ways.
True, common campaign wisdom is you don't take risks when you are ahead, but there will always be the last minute Swiftboating.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)I dont think we have to worry about her this go around. lol
marble falls
(57,134 posts)support her 100%. We just plain do not want to be trumped again.
rainy
(6,092 posts)Most sincere and genuine!
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Winning ...should be our main factor.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I like Kennedy though. I like Warren as my senator, but she is not electable nationally.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)For VP and Kennedy for Pres. However, both are east coast. Red states will use the coastal elites argument. However, they will use something else if it is a balanced ticket.
Brown from Ohio, maybe. However, I like Booker better, and he will pull in a lot of votes too.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)balance the ticket.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I fear. I would LOVE to see him, but age and electability?
Maybe, I am wrong?
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Most electable. Booker is a courageous man. Both are sincere and have integrity.
Sincere doesn't win elections...look at Trump.
rainy
(6,092 posts)murielm99
(30,749 posts)My husband and I are helping a congressional candidate in our district. We are helping a state senate candidate and a county board candidate a little bit. We will worry about 2020 later, after we have done our level best to take back Congress.
elleng
(131,018 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)I like him but you need to be rough and ruthless to fight Trump"s visceral appeal among the deplorables.
elleng
(131,018 posts)from Martin O'Malley:
'Today I am excited to support Cindy Boatwright For South Carolina House District 99 here in Charleston. Lets go knock on doors and win back your state!'
"Dont be distracted by Trumps attacks on the free press. Fight the tax bill.
Dont let them bankrupt America." --- Martin O'Malley
#Democrats2018 #OMalley2020
OMalley tells Dems not to fear Trump.
'Former Democratic presidential candidate Martin OMalley is urging Democrats not to be afraid of President Trump.
"Donald Trump is a self-basting turkey," said OMalley, who recently launched a new PAC focused on helping Democrats win state and local races. "A lot of people who voted for him are embarrassed about his behavior."
In a recent interview with The Hill, OMalley explained why he believes his new PAC can yield big results for his party and why Trump doesnt represent the future of the United States.
Pointing to a Democratic sweep in local elections last month, the former Maryland governor said his partys economic message is steering the country back on course after Hillary Clintons loss to Trump in the 2016 presidential election.
"I was elated, but not surprised by New Jersey and Virginia," OMalley said, referring to two of the states in which Democrats saw major victories in November.'>>>
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/361291-omalley-tells-dems-not-to-fear-trump
e.mail from MO'M 11/21/17:
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There are 36 Governor's offices up for grabs in 2018, which will play a vital role in the next Congressional redistricting in 2020. If we want to protect against things like the latest Republican tax plan, which favors private jet owners over working families, then we must succeed in winning back our states.
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Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Gov Andrew Cuomo NY - strategic wise, possibly too many skeletons
Gov Jay Inslee WA - dont know enough about
Sen Kristen Gillenbrand NY - flip flopper on issues (formerly pro-gun), the right will use that somehow anyway. I dont quite trust people not strong in their ideology and who shape shift with public opinion
Sen Sherrod Brown OH - dont know enough about
Rep Joe Kennedy III MA - absolutely! My instincts tell me he is trustworthy and he believes 100% in what comes out of his mouth.
Sen Elizabeth Warren MA - use to be big Warren supporter, threw hillary under bus, so no
Sen Tim Kane VA - against abortion, would have to see how he voted in past
Adam Schiff...Id vote for him too.
But no matter what, Id vote for the dem despite preferences.
pandr32
(11,595 posts)Particularly with Kennedy and Schiff.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)prioritize climate change.
And you can leave out Sanders and Biden but I definitely think they are running.
Raine
(30,540 posts)the environment is my number one issue, thanks for the info!
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)I don't see Kaine or Warren being able to win.
spooky3
(34,462 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)most. Many of these candidates are already very polarizing, fair or not.
Kennedy
Blue1963
(77 posts)Any of them.
mythology
(9,527 posts)My initial support would be for Warren although it would risk losing one of my senators.
TEB
(12,863 posts)He is young and will appeal to the younger democrats. And I think he seems to be decent. Regardless Ill support whoever is on the ticket.
lisa58
(5,755 posts)Brown relates to the white/working class that thought Trump was all that -- and Warren because she is fearless
lindysalsagal
(20,712 posts)Ask a NYS teacher about Cuomo, and it will get real ugly real fast.
Demsrule86
(68,618 posts)I can't tell you many in Ohio say they don't like the GOP but the Democrats are to 'liberal'. We may need to run someone who can appeal to centrists...I like Sherrod Brown...he is not a centrist but has working guy credentials.
lindysalsagal
(20,712 posts)They'll bitch about his liberal father, Mario. We don't want andrew.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)based on TV interviews.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)aikoaiko
(34,177 posts)...candidates. There is still a lot of time for that after the 2018 election.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Kane could possibly win anyway. Theres already the negative association with Hillary for those who are never Hillary even though they are anti-trump. I know a few of those. People were too brainwashed during the election with propaganda.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)but not good candidate against mad Pit Bull Repubs
And we know he doesn't do debates well, as we saw in 2016.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)There are many people I respect who add nothing to a ticket. There were all of the jokes about the Dems keeping him locked up playing puzzles. He couldn't turn out a crowd at a rally.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)But first let's concentrate on 2018.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Adam Schiff for POTUS!
brush
(53,801 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 1, 2018, 12:50 AM - Edit history (1)
And who was the Dem woman who debated with Sanders against the repugs a couple of months back?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)brush
(53,801 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)I'd be fine with anyone else right now. I like Cuomo, though.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Seems smart, progressive and dedicated to public service. No baggage that I know of ... being a Kennedy might piss off Republicans.
Bettie
(16,117 posts)might bring some of those old white people back to the party...the ones who recall JFK.
And he seems smart and well-spoken.
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Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)ananda
(28,868 posts)Period.
djg21
(1,803 posts)The last thing we need is another candidate from NY, New England, or CA. We need a candidate from a purple state or one that can deliver a traditional swing state like PA, MI, OH, etc. I dont think Sherrod Brown could win a general. Im liking John Hickenlooper, who is finishing his final term as Governor of Colorado.
DavidDvorkin
(19,480 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)irisblue
(33,007 posts)He leaves, Ohio WILL get another republican, placed by the Koch Boothers money. Senators stay a long long time in Ohio. We need Sen Brown voice & passion & vote in the Senate.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)We survived two Roosevelts, two Bushes, no problem with another Kennedy.
Pretty sure the Kennedy name recognition and family ties will resound with a lot of older voters. His relative youth and energy will resound with a lot of millenials. He seems pretty progressive, if not as much as Sanders, Warren or Sherrod, but good enough to attract a lot of people who are looking leftward in this semi-fascist time.
But, as I said, I'll vote for ANY Democratic candidate if the alternative is Bozo.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Then he is unbeatable against trump.
But someone here on DU said his wife has threatened divorce if he runs.
I love the guy. He could(and would) stand on a stage and call Trump a Mother fucking Asshole. In polite political speak of course.
In fact, I would bet trump would refuse to debate(someone bookmark this prediction!!)
Yall have a happy new year.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Gov Andrew Cuomo NY - Coastal and scandal prone
Gov Jay Inslee WA - Coastal and too liberal
Sen Kristen Gillenbrand NY - Would do no better than Hillary if she even survived the primaries.
Sen Sherrod Brown OH - Probably won't be re-elected in 2018
Rep Joe Kennedy III MA - Nobody
Sen Elizabeth Warren MA - Like Biden she could have won in 2016 with the Obama machine and momentum behind her but probably couldn't do it on her own.
Sen Tim Kaine VA - Tainted by 2016 and already said he isn't running,
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Demsrule86
(68,618 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)He had everything going for him, looks, Kennedy name, money, charisma...oh well life has to goes on.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)John Schlossberg. I have heard him speak in an interview before and he seems like a very bright, handsome, charismatic young man. I think he is considering a career in politics.
sabbat hunter
(6,831 posts)for D presidential nominee in 2020?
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)I guess I'm with Biden until a better alternative comes along, the only thing that matters is that any candidate be nationally competitive and Biden will be competitive places that Hillary wasn't but it's all for naught if any of our rising stars deliver an identical electoral map to that of 2016 which I fear is the best possible outcome for most of them. I don't know that Biden can win without Obama but if I had to take a chance on any of the presumptive nominees it would have to be him.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)John Doe or Jane Doe with a (D).
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I think Kennedy and Cuomo are the best choices. None of the others has a chance to win imo. Ive kind of lost hope for anyone who is really intelligent winning anymore. Or of any win at all of the election issues arent dealt with.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Retrograde
(10,137 posts)For president: someone in their late 50s/early 60s with extensive (at least 10 years) experience in government at the state or federal level. Some of that experience should be in an administrative position. I want someone who is well-versed in how the federal government and its agencies operate because they are going to have to undo the mess the current administration is making.
For vice-president: someone 5-10 years younger, also with some government experience at the state or federal level.
I'll support who ever winds up on the ticket, though - once we get past 2018.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)We don't need to nominate someone who's built his entire career, in New York State of all places, on running against the progressive wing of the party.
And since we're going to carry New York presidentially no matter what, we're far better off nominating somebody from a swing state.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)though it is hard to find a Dem who didn't get caught up in the Salem Witch Trial, led by Guillibrand.
She is the only one I will not support.
Kennedy is my preference at this point.
applegrove
(118,724 posts)Don't know the others. What about Gavin Newsome?
Nailzberg
(4,610 posts)kacekwl
(7,020 posts)Sally Yates.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)everyone else is fine.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)NY invited Hillary to run, why not Al. Poetic justice.
demosincebirth
(12,541 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)demosincebirth
(12,541 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)demosincebirth
(12,541 posts)Democrat. Some dems, I would have to pinch my nose and vote for them. Saying that, I have never voted for a republican in my life and never will.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)All Dems do not merit the same respect though, just because they have a D instead of an R.
Speaking of, I pray Elijah Cummings makes it. He is one of the best.
mvd
(65,178 posts)this is what I think:
Gov Andrew Cuomo NY - too aligned with the Third Way wing of the party
Gov Jay Inslee WA - not too familiar with him, so we'll see
Sen Kristen Gillibrand NY - not liking the way she took the lead on Franken and also dug up the Clinton past. Would support her but not a first choice right now
Sen Sherrod Brown OH - I like him, but let's see how he does in his election
Rep Joe Kennedy III MA - not familiar except for the name
Sen Elizabeth Warren MA - always a strong economic and social message. Not sure how she would play as a candidate, but one of my favorites
Sen Tim Kane VA - nice guy but too vanilla politically
I think a Warren/Brown or Brown/Warren ticket would excite.
Demsrule86
(68,618 posts)I don't think he can win nationally...and the special elections have cemented my opinion. Naturally I will vote for whoever the nominee is.
mchill
(1,018 posts)Any order
Still pissed at Kirsten for the Al Franken thing.
Still pissed at Kamala Harris for joining in
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)mchill
(1,018 posts)but not as stridently as Kamala Harris.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)the Democratic nominee, as always. I'm more interested in legislative elections, frankly.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Brown or Gillenbrand. None of the rest, except perhaps Warren, can beat Trump, and beating Trump is the paramount issue. Why didn't you list Booker, since I think he might be the nominee?
dem4decades
(11,299 posts)Former Governor, great speaker.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Warren or Gillenbrand.
There are others I'd support first, and they aren't Sanders, Clinton, or Biden. If Sanders ran, I'd support him in a heartbeat, but I'd rather keep him in the Senate and move forward. As for the other 2...no. Just no.
Some others I'd consider:
Nina Turner
Lucy Flores
Zephyr Teachout
There are others, but I'd start here.
sabbat hunter
(6,831 posts)has a snowballs chance in hell of even getting nominated.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)which isn't all that wise.
Sanders is the most popular politician in America. I believe that he'd win if he ran again.
The three? If Donald Fucking Moron Trump can win, I'm not afraid to put lesser-known people forward.
If I, and millions of other progressives, have to be limited to establishment candidates, I can guarantee that enthusiasm and involvement will also be limited, which will lead to more losses.
Democrats should be, in my opinion, more invested in moving forward than in protecting and defending the old, failed guard.
But that's just my perspective. I'm sure no other voters out there would agree.
sabbat hunter
(6,831 posts)is a well known politician.
Those three are not. Teachout barely was a blip on the radar in the two elections she ran in.
The other two have held state representative offices for a short time (with Turner getting crunched in the one statewide election she ran in). in the one election Turner ran and won, she was unopposed.
Flores lost elections for Lt. gov, and for congress (in the primary).
What do any of those three have that show that they can win on a national level?
LWolf
(46,179 posts)that attract me:
1. They are outside the establishment
2. They are women
3. Two are also WoC
4. They are NOT neoliberals
More and more voters are looking for these qualities; too many "well-known politicians" don't have them.
Maybe Trump was well-known to some tv watchers; I admit that he wasn't well known to me, although I was aware of him in the periphery.
If I have to stick to "well known," some of my top choices are not at all practical; they are too "controversial," meaning they are too willing to publicly step outside proscribed political boundaries. Sanders would be my obvious first choice for "well known." My own Senator Merkley would be another.
I'd rather leave them both in the Senate and go forward with fresher, and therefore less well-known, choices.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)lkinwi
(1,477 posts)To me, hes a straight talking guy who doesnt mince words.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)have a lot of baggage, that I know about.
mobydog
(1 post)He's such an awesome progressive and talks BACK! I'd put him on as VP with anyone with a spark - which half the list lacks, but he'd be great on a ticket with Sherrod Brown.
marble falls
(57,134 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,449 posts)He, like Kamala Harris, is from California....and, well, firebrands (competent leaders in my eyes) from California make easy targets. Just ask Nancy Pelosi.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He was born in Taiwan.
montanacowboy
(6,097 posts)Jay is a great Governor and a real progressive.
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)The progressive policies and principles he has fought for (and won) from minimum wage increases to workers rights to marriage equality he has proved to be a capable commander in chief and a candidate that wont be bullied by Trump...
sabbat hunter
(6,831 posts)tolls on the east river bridges and/or peak time pricing in lower manhattan, to reduce cars on the road and to give more money to the MTA.
He also cut middle class taxes in NYS, got paid family leave passed.
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,668 posts)Just today he came out for more wind power, for placing a new cap on carbon emissions and called for legislation to combat sexual harassment in state offices. And earlier this week he had a proposal to ease student debt and for ending "lunch shaming" in our public schools.
Marty Marzipan
(67 posts)This is an ideal time for the Democratic Party to embrace the progressive agenda. Elizabeth Warren for Prez!
mainer
(12,022 posts)And where's Adam Schiff?
louis c
(8,652 posts)My two cents. We need a truly vetted candidate who everybody feels comfortable with.
My suggestion is that Joe Biden runs, declares during the election that he will serve only one term. Kamala Harris is his running mate and Biden explains that she will be his successor in 2024.
Trump loses and everyone else wins.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)domestic and foreign and they know him....THEY LIKE HIM. He needs to undo and repair the damage trashbag has done around the world and at home.... Joe can fix it!! He can win the general and isn't that the point here? Harris as his running mate - absolutely.
I'm open to any combo that I think can win the general. Sorry but it's about likability and personality first. I do wish that wasn't the case but I'm a realist.
I really laugh at folks who say "Warren" ..I mean of course I like her...but to think she can win a general is just really far fetched in my opinion.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)More women would be nice, too.
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sabbat hunter
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Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)Followed by Joe Biden.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)just found out Inslee is good on the environment which is my concern so I would definitely support him in a big way!
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Tim Kaine? lol I like him, but he is not presidential material.
Kristen lost my support during her overthrow of Franken.
I'd support Biden, or Sanders over the rest.