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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 05:59 PM Jan 2018

Nicolle Wallace Drops A Bomb That Trump Is Suffering From Paranoid Delusions

http://www.politicususa.com/2018/01/02/nicolle-wallace-drops-bomb-trump-suffering-paranoid-delusions.html

Nicolle Wallace Drops A Bomb That Trump Is Suffering From Paranoid Delusions

By Jason Easley on Tue, Jan 2nd, 2018 at 4:28 pm


MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace said that Trump is suffering from paranoid delusions that the Justice Department is out to get him.

Video @ link:

Wallace said, “There’s another word for it, it’s a paranoid delusion. One that’s repeated over and over again. It started with one against the intelligence community. General Hyden was on MSNBC’s air talking about how these are the very people that don’t just protect the president. The president isn’t just their number one client, but they protect the country. Can you speak to the national security implications of carrying on a hot war against your own Justice Department led by your own political appointees?”


Nicolle Wallace was correct. What Trump is doing by declaring his own Justice Department part of the “deep state” is crazy. There is no way around it. Trump is a conspiracy theory president who believes that the Justice Department is conspiring to bring him down.

The mainstream press can’t resist and still tries at times to normalize this president. Nicolle Wallace deserves credit because she is coming out and telling the truth. Trump is delusional. The man is not mentally fit to be president, and can not handle the duties of the presidency.

There is zero evidence that the Justice Department is out to get Trump. It is all a fantasy that exists in Trump’s mind as part of his effort to discredit the Russia investigation and any evidence of criminal activity that Special Counsel Robert Mueller might uncover.

Donald Trump is suffering from paranoid delusions. He should not have access to the nuclear codes, and for the safety of the nation, he should be removed from office ASAP.
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Nicolle Wallace Drops A Bomb That Trump Is Suffering From Paranoid Delusions (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2018 OP
Trump has been showing signs of senility for some time Gothmog Jan 2018 #1
So, what's the bad news? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #2
He is still in office TNNurse Jan 2018 #27
Signs of serious personality disorder for over 50 years. Hortensis Jan 2018 #15
He is reacting as a BPD would Maggiemayhem Jan 2018 #19
Yeah, but he is lovin it NJCher Jan 2018 #53
I've seen a parent and uncle shanny Jan 2018 #34
I thought that was pretty obvious, far before November, 2016. Siwsan Jan 2018 #3
This kind of thinking is endemic in the far right. Thomas Hurt Jan 2018 #4
+++++++ + pangaia Jan 2018 #33
Nicolle and her panel also said DTs is "softening the ground for an all out war on the DOJ"... Hekate Jan 2018 #5
I think it's this more than anything. ok_cpu Jan 2018 #24
Last 2 paragraphs... pangaia Jan 2018 #35
Agree 100% Juliusseizure Jan 2018 #49
Nah he knows what he did malaise Jan 2018 #6
The thing is, he does have so much to hide from law enforcement muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 #7
She ended the show with more talk of Trump's psychosis. Atman Jan 2018 #8
This is tRump's get out of jail free card Wednesdays Jan 2018 #9
Might be his, in terms of jail. shanny Jan 2018 #38
+1000 kentuck Jan 2018 #10
Just because you're paranoid..... brooklynite Jan 2018 #11
No shite! Cha Jan 2018 #12
Being paranoid gibraltar72 Jan 2018 #13
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #14
I saw the last half hour today. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #16
If ten years ago, somebody told me I would become a Nicole Wallace fan, GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #17
This is a different party than she was a part of Alice11111 Jan 2018 #20
Not really. GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #46
There is that aspect, but even the Bushes stand away from Alice11111 Jan 2018 #48
Ehh NJCher Jan 2018 #54
I Would Be Paranoid Too - They Are Out To Get Him - He Is A Criminal SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #18
I still say Soxfan58 Jan 2018 #21
"The paranoids are after me. THE PARANOIDS ARE AFTER ME!!!!" longship Jan 2018 #22
But who will employ The Wizard Jan 2018 #23
or taser?? bdamomma Jan 2018 #40
Wow. Wasn't she a Republican operative at one point? Demoiselle Jan 2018 #25
She worked in the GW Bush admin dhol82 Jan 2018 #29
She was the poor sap who had to take Sarah Palin shopping for convention/campaign fashions. calimary Jan 2018 #41
As they say - I pity the fool. dhol82 Jan 2018 #43
I don't like this constant refrain that the "justice department is not out to get him" GetRidOfThem Jan 2018 #26
There is a difference between "out to get" and "doing their job" bigbrother05 Jan 2018 #57
Nope. He's using trigger words to keep the GOPs delusional base protecting him. blm Jan 2018 #28
this bluestarone Jan 2018 #31
EXACTLY! Duppers Jan 2018 #42
Crazy. Or crazy like a fox. onenote Jan 2018 #30
Are bank robbers paranoid about the police? ThoughtCriminal Jan 2018 #32
But the justice department IS after him! There is no delusion here. Maraya1969 Jan 2018 #36
Its not paranoia if it's true. HopeAgain Jan 2018 #37
There are many of us bdamomma Jan 2018 #39
Hasn't he been saying this for months now? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #44
How many copies of Catcher in the Rye House of Roberts Jan 2018 #45
Its delusional to commit treason and NOT expect the justice dept to 'be out to get him.' joanbarnes Jan 2018 #47
Has anyone here read the "Duty to Warn" book? area51 Jan 2018 #50
Trump Is Suffering From Paranoid Delusions thbobby Jan 2018 #51
Its not paranoia if they are really after you JonLP24 Jan 2018 #52
or maybe he's just riling up his brain dead base.... tomp Jan 2018 #55
Closer his Orangeness gets to the perp walk NoMoreRepugs Jan 2018 #56
in other news, water is wet. niyad Jan 2018 #58
I don't think we need to invoke mental illness when there's a simpler explanation paulkienitz Jan 2018 #59

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
27. He is still in office
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jan 2018

and there does not seem to be effective effort to remove him.
But then we get Pence. God help us all.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Signs of serious personality disorder for over 50 years.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jan 2018

Senility? He's not dozing through cabinet meetings or showing signs of memory decline. Yes, dad had Alzheimer's and son might just have early signs.

But it would take a professional separate them out from signs and symptoms of very long-term mental disorder. Itm, anyone who refuses to consider decades of indicators of personality disorder is, frankly, being silly. Trump wasn't born 2 years ago. He has 50 years of well documented history.

I mention this because, frankly, personality disorder, with behaviors like the narcissistic rages we've witnessed, is FAR more dangerous to us than just snoozing through meetings and not knowing whether to stick the spoon in the mouth or the ear.

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
19. He is reacting as a BPD would
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jan 2018

I don’t know if he has cognitive decline without testing. He certainly exhibits some weird behaviors at times. He never had to be in front the whole world like this and The Apprentice was scripted. I think he is more like a cornered rabid raccoon.

NJCher

(35,687 posts)
53. Yeah, but he is lovin it
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 05:56 AM
Jan 2018

This deranged individual’s illness has him enthralled with being the center of attention, and he has managed to force us all to be unwilling participants in his psychodrama.

I agree that he is like a cornered raccoon, but in a strange, sick way, it makes it all the more exciting for him.

This would be a horrible scenario if he were running a deli or managing a vacuum cleaner repair shop, but he is president of the USA. The world, however, has seen madmen leaders before. Left unchecked, it will not end well.

Cher

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
34. I've seen a parent and uncle
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jan 2018

slide into Alzheimer's. I see the same in him. Not a professional, just anecdotal, but he makes my hair stand on end.

Also too, he's been a colossal, developmentally-challenged asshole his entire life.

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
3. I thought that was pretty obvious, far before November, 2016.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jan 2018

My Mom became very paranoid when the Alzheimer's/Dementia started to get a strangle grip on her brain.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. This kind of thinking is endemic in the far right.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jan 2018

Trump has all the earmarks of a extremist right wing loon. Not sure why this is news.

Trump is an example of the same extremist right wing ideology found in the birchers, patriot movement, constitutionalists, KKK, Tea Party, etc.

The "alt-right" is a rebranded version of the same nuttery going back to the oldest conservative christian terrorist organization in this country.

The New World Order and other Jewish conspiracies are now the "globalist" threat. Same conspiracy repackaged. Take the Klansman out of his sheets and put him in a suit.

"Deep State", the same, more rebranded right wing conspiracy theory ideology.

Everyone is out to get conservatives, gays, liberals, socialists, the poor, brown folks, illegals, Muslims, communists, alien lizardmen, etc.

Trump is just another fellow traveller.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
5. Nicolle and her panel also said DTs is "softening the ground for an all out war on the DOJ"...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jan 2018

Her program and panel today were excellent, as they often are.

ok_cpu

(2,052 posts)
24. I think it's this more than anything.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jan 2018

He's clearly not a "thinker" or a details person as is typical of the leaders of some closely-held or family businesses who are used to declaring things into existence. He's also showing some decline due to age.

But, I think a lot of what is attributed to crazy or paranoid is actually calculated to undermine democratic institutions and to inoculate him with the base as the truth inevitably comes out. Hell, there's enough out there already to end any other administration but he lives on.

I believe Moore is doing the same thing in AL. The right knows they have 25-30% of the electorate that will no longer believe in the legitimacy of elections because Moore said so. Those people will be more than willing to support subverting the democratic process if their guy is going to win because, after all, elections results are fake news anyway.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
49. Agree 100%
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:38 AM
Jan 2018

I just wrote just about the same thing several days.

I believe he is paranoid but it's not completely delusional. He knows what he's guilty of. Flynn was the one advisor he was worried would flip the most. He knows Mueller is 10 steps ahead of him.

It's a subconscious reaction to legitimate fear, yes likely gets slightly delusional, but also calculated to justify a future action, to himself and the public.

Hitler became increasingly paranoid too. Not crazy. He was losing. But not completely rational too. Is Trump Hitler? No. But he's extraordinarily high spectrum narcissist like him.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
8. She ended the show with more talk of Trump's psychosis.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:20 PM
Jan 2018

The Holiday Friday dump about eliminating more Obama regulations re: Deepwater Horizon offshore oil drilling regulations, the firing of the AIDS commission, anything Obama ever did continues to get stripped from the books, etc. So much bullshit that no one can keep up, because he's got us all fixated on whether he's starting a war with NK first, or Iran. Meanwhile, he can do these EOs on a Friday afternoon and nobody hears about it.

As she said, if you're proud of this stuff, you don't do it on a Friday afternoon before a Holiday. Trump (his ghost writer) stated clearly in "Art of the Deal" that if someone wrongs you (ie: Obama's ridiculing him at the Correspondent's Dinner) then you MUST exact revenge. That's all Trump cares about, regardless of how many people get hurt.

He is a very sick man.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
9. This is tRump's get out of jail free card
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:20 PM
Jan 2018

Not just him, but the whole cabal. Because they will point to him and say everything was his doing, even though he was out of his mind.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
38. Might be his, in terms of jail.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:55 PM
Jan 2018

But the rest of them have no excuse (ignorance? following orders? nope and nope.)

Where tRump is concerned I wii be satisfied with him out of office, thoroughly disgraced, and a big chunk of his net worth seized or frozen under RICO.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
16. I saw the last half hour today.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jan 2018

She often says he is getting nuttier by the minute and most of her panel guests agree 100%. Nixon was super paranoid and carried a grudge (never one to forgive and forget) and was full of hatred which brought him down. The Fucking Moron is far worse and is not nearly as bright as Nixon was. This makes him more dangerous domestically and internationally.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
17. If ten years ago, somebody told me I would become a Nicole Wallace fan,
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jan 2018

I'd have told them they were crazy. Not anymore. I am not sold on her politics, but I respect her for not towing the party line, and speaking out against Trump's bullshit.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
46. Not really.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jan 2018

It's mostly the same people. Only now, they feel more free to be the bigots and misogynists they always were. The few decent ones, like Wallace, left the party. But the rest are still there in all their hateful glory. They just became more emboldened than they were back then.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
48. There is that aspect, but even the Bushes stand away from
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jan 2018

Repubs and with the Dems at events. Many Repubs don't want to be associated with these RWNJs.

Yes, the RWNJs are out of the closet now, and they were hiding out before. I wish we could put that toothpaste back in the tube. Whatever you say about W, and there is a lot of bad shit to say, he wasn't a racist.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
29. She worked in the GW Bush admin
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jan 2018

She has impressed me as now being a moderate republican. She actually sounds rational and appalled by what is going on in our country.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
41. She was the poor sap who had to take Sarah Palin shopping for convention/campaign fashions.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:46 PM
Jan 2018

She was the one with the RNC credit card who spent 150-thousand dollars on outfits for Sarah so Sarah could look "presidential". Or something.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
26. I don't like this constant refrain that the "justice department is not out to get him"
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jan 2018

What if they are, for all the right reasons? Can't paranoia also be a manifestation of guilt? I remember this old saying:

"Just because you think they are all out to get you does not mean they aren't!"

I think Bob Mueller & gang is out to get him. Justice is out to get him. Because he is a friggin' crook, and they know it.

Let's get real here...

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
57. There is a difference between "out to get" and "doing their job"
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jan 2018

If DOJ were just Sessions and Trump's loyal minions, HRC and BHO would both be under indictment. The DOJ and FBI in particular are law enforcement officials first and foremost. They will follow an investigation where it leads once they are clued in on violations. It's very likely that many in the "deep state" were not Obama fans, but he gave them little reason to investigate and when they did, there wasn't enough to make any case to go further.

blm

(113,065 posts)
28. Nope. He's using trigger words to keep the GOPs delusional base protecting him.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jan 2018

He wants an armed army out there just in case any Republicans with integrity start doing their job.

He knows he and his family and associates are guilty as hell. He's keeping his first line of defense primed and paranoid.

He is a pathological liar and schemer who has mostly gotten away with it his entire life. He's just never had all his 'issues' examined so closely before.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
30. Crazy. Or crazy like a fox.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:38 PM
Jan 2018

I lean towards the latter. He knows that attempts to undermine DOJ is his best way to deal with the Mueller investigation. As they say, the best defense is a good offense. I don't think, from a substantive point of view, his attacks constitute a "good offense". But politically they work for him by giving his base something to hold onto.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
36. But the justice department IS after him! There is no delusion here.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:54 PM
Jan 2018

That is why I think he keeps saying, "no collusion, no collusion" . He wants people to think there was no collusion! And he absolutely knows that there was collusion between his campaign and Russia and probably between him personally and Russia.

If I were in his position I'd think people were after me too, and I would be right!

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
39. There are many of us
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:17 PM
Jan 2018

who know this man is a threat, and if there are those in government/congress that do not want cause a panic in the American people for bringing his mental state to the forefront is doing a grave injustice to us all.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
44. Hasn't he been saying this for months now?
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jan 2018

And haven't LOTS of people been saying so?

Does Nicolle Wallace think that we don't all already know? The real problem is that those who are immediately around Trump are happily protecting him from anything resembling reality. To the extreme detriment of all of the rest of us.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
51. Trump Is Suffering From Paranoid Delusions
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:13 AM
Jan 2018

Bullshit! America is suffering from this. If he is senile, he has been that way all his life. He has been the same bigotted, stupid, carnival barker his entire life. And he is our president. What is wrong with America. Russia helped him, but it is bigotry, misogyny, and racism that caused him to be elected. A black man and then a woman for president. Too much hatred in America to let that happen.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
52. Its not paranoia if they are really after you
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:24 AM
Jan 2018

Which they should be. Trump knows what is up which is why he fired Comey

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
55. or maybe he's just riling up his brain dead base....
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 06:56 AM
Jan 2018

....in classic propaganda. Will they believe the big lie....yeah, they will.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
56. Closer his Orangeness gets to the perp walk
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jan 2018

the closer all those millions of goobers with their 10s of millions of guns and 100s of millions of rounds of ammo are to having their collective heads explode. I have seen their hate and loathing during my 45+ years of visiting the family farm in the Ozarks.... it's real and it's going to be ugly in my opinion.

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
59. I don't think we need to invoke mental illness when there's a simpler explanation
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:11 PM
Jan 2018

namely, that it's his habit to lie all the time about everything.

That said, mental illness or dementia shouldn't be ruled out either.

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