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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is from Louise Mensch. It is one of the better discussions from Patribotics IMO
She talks about the term 'collusion' and spells out what she believes are high crimes
that might fall within this broad (legally meaningless) term.
I think it is worth reading. Suit yourself.
https://patribotics.blog/2018/01/02/trump-russia-collusion-why-muellers-not-thinking-small/
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)but as per the story I posted here the other day, this word "collusion" has GOT to go.
It aint gonna be collusion, it WILL be other things but allowing these filthy fucking traitors to pretend innocence because there is no ultimate charge of collusion is a mistake.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)but she was essentially correct. That story on DU was going ballistic on election day when hackers took down DU:
FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)She's as good as the bias of MSM or the publications we once considered reliable & true.
"Money & Media".
Major Media selling out the public trust for personal gain.
Thanks for posting
onenote
(42,714 posts)But that doesn't stop some people from thinking she's something special.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Lots of pile-on comments from the same bunch that refuses to read what they write, because "someone said"..
onenote
(42,714 posts)some of my favorites:
October 2017:Exclusive: Mueller Has Dozens of Sealed Indictments, Including On Donald Trump
May 2017:Trumps Presidency Ended May 9th Hatch Getting Security Briefings"
May 2017:"EXCLUSIVE: Sealed Indictment granted against Donald Trump"
May 2017: "EXCLUSIVE: Comey Day: First Trump Russia Arrests Possible Thursday"
May 2017: Story about Marshall of Supreme Court giving Trump formal notice of impeachment proceedings.
March 2017: Death penalty being considered for Bannon.
Yep I read her stuff. The way things are in the country, anything for a laugh.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Pitiful sense of humor when outing the Kremlin coup is funny.
Whatever.
Bye
onenote
(42,714 posts)They're click bait bullshit for the easily fooled readers.
If her sources are so great, how is it that with all of her reporting, she never mentioned Mr. Papadapolous before he was indicted?
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)You'd know it if you followed her.
Good lord.
Bye
Sorry I have to "ignore" you onenote.
melman
(7,681 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)There is in fact, a relevant difference between reading a series of editorials by an author and "thinking she's something special."
But that 'doesn't stop some people from thinking they're the one and the same...'
Special, indeed.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Take the once trusted NY Times.
Fan fiction indeed.
Response to LonePirate (Reply #5)
Post removed
Wwcd
(6,288 posts).. because "someone said "
They called her a fraud when she said the entire GOP would be indicted.
Aaaand, turns out she was more correct than they were.
Putin bots & trolls didn't like what she wrote either.
Her sources are from our global FVEY alliances. Not just the US.
🇺🇸🌐
"The "Five Eyes" (FVEY) refers to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement for joint cooperation in signals intelligence, military intelligence, and human intelligence."
Shes a fraud.
Shes called Malcolm Nance, Joy Reid, Preet Bahara, and many more russian disinfo agents.
She called the march for truth organizers russian actors
She has 600k+ resistance accounts on a blocklist for her followers
She plants in her followers heads that msm is not to be trusted
She discourages the release of info on trump, saying intel has all they need.
I thought the whole gop would be indicted. Many did. Many have theorized things she has. But it still hasnt happened, so how has she been accurate. She also backpedals and edits her posts on patribotics to appear she predicted something.
She is a chaos agent who still works for murdoch (she slipped and mentioned her boss wouldnt like something) and takes people down a rabbit hole where they dont pay attention to anything but her.
She could be on here too, along with her assistants in chaos who incidentally are all conservatives.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)That is her & her Team Patriot's mission.
You give a lot of comments for never reading what she & Team Patriot writes.
Perhaps you read the fake bews tge Putin bots were pushing when they begin outingbthevKremlin coup.
You really should read their writings and decide for yourself.
There are plenty of trolls & bots trying to discredit anything written against the Kremlin.
Later!
://patribotics.blog/2018/01/02/trump-russia-collusion-why-muellers-not-thinking-small/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
it was the purpose of the investigation to understand whether there were any coordination or collusion between ...the campaign and the Russians - @Comey testimony to @SenFranken
I read mensch for quite a while. Then I blocked her. But I still see screen shots.
Who can forget the marshall of scotus on the tarmac? Trumps been notified of impeachment already eh? Flynn is getting the death penalty?
Your undying loyalty sounds a little cultish and infowarish to me. You also block like your dear leader does.
Later!
Me.
(35,454 posts)For one thing...she was the first person who I read that mentioned the dossier.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)We all have our sacred cows, I suppose.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Putun bots & trolls flooded the internet with the same labels.
Wonder why?
Because she & her Team Patriot outed more Kremlin bs than MSM ever will.
I applaud anyone who will spend months & yrs outing the underhanded coup on our US govt.
LM & her team are more correct than the "Media & Money" MSM.
☺
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)They hate her but refuse to read her work.
For those who do follow her & Team Patriot & who do take interest in what they write, we have the right to post and discuss our opinions without being called "working for Trump"
Enough is when those who don't know nor care to know what we're discussing stop by to label us & discredit who we're discussing.
Enough isn't enough apparently.
Thank You
://patribotics.blog/2018/01/02/trump-russia-collusion-why-muellers-not-thinking-small/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
it was the purpose of the investigation to understand whether there were any coordination or collusion between ...the campaign and the Russians - @Comey testimony to @SenFranken
Read her blog with the rest of us or they could simply stop when they don't know what we're talking about.
Its that simple.
Enough is right.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)They never consider that her stopped-clock prognostications might, in fact, be largely unsubstantiated bullshit.
No, somehow the skeptics--the ones who say "maybe we need corroboration"--are the bots and trolls.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)she convinces her followers resistance accounts (the sane ones) are deza, because they oppose her.
No, we oppose her because we dont like liars and facts matter.
One can almost admire how religiously her followers obey their marching orders.
mackdaddy
(1,527 posts)Sometimes it is an early warning system for what might be coming.
Louise Mensch seems to be one of the more volatile and admitted right wing on twitter, BUT when she turns the initial twitter rumblings into her official blog stories on her Patriotic site they seem a lot more on point. A large part of her Patriotic stories end up being proven out even months later in the mainstream. And when she is outright wrong she updates her stories with what she got wrong.
So twitter feeds are pretty much rumor and scuttle butt. Mensch and others blog post are a bit more serious, maybe on par with a Daily KOS journal, or a DU writer. Certainly not main stream, and hang your hat on it certain. But worth watching for some of us anyhow.
Louise & her Team have been more a reliable source than our beloved & Murdoch owned MSM.
Its about raw intel over sanitized news.
That's the difference.
I'll continue to read her Patribotics
no intel.
She has no sources.
She works for Murdoch.
Fox is not msm.
Msm isnt unreliable. They actually have to get multiple sources to confirm a story or its a no go. That is REAL reporting. They have to especially do that now otherwise Trump will have a good case that they are fake news. Occasionally they make mistakes. Whereas fox makes fake news up to perpetuate conspiracy theories.
Either you are severely mislead, or you are pushing the same untruths that the trump admin are and chipping away at peoples confidence in the integrity of our media. Thats a dangerous game.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)You may believe what you want but DO NOT lay this insult on me.
I don't know where you get your info bit you are seriously wrong.
"Either you are severely mislead, or you are pushing the same untruths that the trump admin are and chipping away at peoples confidence in the integrity of our media."
Wtf!
When you disparage mainstream media (over mensch no less) its equivalent to playing into trumps and putins hands.
Mensch has blocked WALTER SHAUB...former director of government ETHICS. For NO REASON. THINK about that. This is a drop in the bucket of her shady behavior. She was hanging with Milo during the campaign! Shes a conservative through and through, and even if she despises putin, she still has an investment in trump passing CONSERVATIVE policies right under peoples noses while they are in the rabbit hole.
mythology
(9,527 posts)But it's kind of amusing that somebody defends Mensch instead of the Murdoch owned media, when the vast majority of the mainstream media doesn't and hasn't worked for Murdoch, unlike Mensch.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)but Im not so sure she doesnt still work for murdoch. Too coincidental that she stopped working for him late 2016/early 2017. She also never discusses how the gop and trump are taking a wrecking ball to the u.s. Its all about russia and putin. I think its fair to say shes good with everything except putin (on paper).
Oh, and we cant forget she thinks all of the resistance are deza, so Im not quite sure why resistance accounts even follow her.
What does that even mean?
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Putin bots & trolls hate her too. They have been busy discrediting Louise & her team patriot since they realized they were outing the Kremlin coup.
Yet, here they all are, STILL going after Putin & Trump. Louise Mensch despises Vlad.
That is why she does what she does.
Patribotics.
it was the purpose of the investigation to understand whether there were any coordination or collusion between ...the campaign and the Russians - @Comey testimony to @SenFranken
https://patribotics.blog/2018/01/02/trump-russia-collusion-why-muellers-not-thinking-small/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
She has one mission and that is to out Vladimer Putin.
I have no problem with that.
Go for it Louise..I applaud your effort. Thank you
Those who refuse to read it have no validity in discrediting her, or me.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)you the same thing she does. Indictments are coming! Because they are. That whole thing with the alpha bank server? It was reported before she reported it.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Worthless RW troll, duping so many because confirmation bias.
She's been right about ONE thing, ONE time. Aside from that, she spouts absolute lunacy, and the gullible lap it up.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)eom
Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)At least I know from just one thread, who to ignore.
Makes it so much easier having the whole group here in one spot.
Thanks DU.
Now, where were we...
Oh yes,
://patribotics.blog/2018/01/02/trump-russia-collusion-why-muellers-not-thinking-small/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
it was the purpose of the investigation to understand whether there were any coordination or collusion between ...the campaign and the Russians - @Comey testimony to @SenFranken
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts) it was the purpose of the investigation to understand whether there were any coordination or collusion between ...the campaign and the Russians -
@Comey testimony to @SenFranken
This is yet another reason why Sen Franken was targeted.
But damn, what Franken did with the time he had was so revealing.
With Comey's testimony & when he caught Sessions lying also.
Thank You Sen Franken.
(He'll be back)
Patriotism is Love, Nationalism is Hate.
triron
(22,007 posts)I don't understand all the vitriol she elicits.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)..at the mention of her name. Weird. They call her names but don't read Louise nor the others of her Team Patriot. Go figure.
I really don't give a sh**. Just put them on ignore.
I & many others have followed the Team Patriot for a long time.
This blog post you linked to is one of her very best.
I expect to hear this piece discussed on MSM in the future.
They do that to her, but they'll never credit her for the reporting. They've done it before.
MSM lazy cheats will claim the "likes" as though they researched & wrote the Breaking News themselves.
But again, it was Louise & her FVEY sources that did the legwork.
MSM is not investigative journalism.
But they sure take the credit!
Figures. They promoted Trump for an entire year. 24/7, and people call Louise a " fraud"?
Thanks for bringing this Patribotics bl9g post here.
I hope there are other open minds who will read it.
It is an outstanding piece.
I was pleased to see her reference to Sen Franken.
She is spot on.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)or maybe we need a new forum just called speculation, because she isn't even creative...
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Bye
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Don't you realize that calling someone a "nutjob" is both against DU rules an uncivil conduct unbecoming a true Democrat?
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)It's not a secret that she is a far right person.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Try to stay on the high road.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)She has been spot on, long before others.
For her haters, I use my own discernment, thank you very much.
MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)Even if it were true that she is right some of the time- in advance- so what? So six months from now when Jared gets indicted are y'all going to say "Louise Mensch knew it first!"? What's the point?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)they wouldn't have enough time to eat or drink and would shrivel away.
onenote
(42,714 posts)Mensch knows what she's talking about when she plainly doesn't.
I still get the giggles when I think about her claim that the Marshall of the Supreme Court was chasing down Trump to give him some formal notice related to the impeachment process -- as ludicrous a claim as she has made.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)eShirl
(18,494 posts)How many times does she have to be wrong before her fan club catches on?