... so it wasn't all male.

Go Rachel !

and there were as many women as men seen on everything and everywhere all the time and not a rarity to be noticed and mentioned as something unusual! That will be equality.

day on MSNBC.

Sometimes DU gets it wrong

Two very different things. You made my point.

Why do you have a need to insult people?

a country needing around 30% of its legislative body to be female for things to really change, for programs and everything else to move away from the male-oriented assumptions to more human and humane systems.

Various European countries have reached that number.

At some threshold, which I'm recalling as being about 30 percent, the number of women is sufficient to change things a great deal.

It's the same in most workplaces. A tiny percentage of women in a traditionally male field and nothing changes and harassment might well be a huge problem. But as the presence of women increases enough, again to about 30 percent, men's behavior changes.

In legislative bodies that 30 percent is enough to powerfully influence the agenda and how men vote.

Which is why simply having a woman as President will not make much of a difference in this country if the legislature is below that critical percentage. Indeed, a woman President without enough women in Congress will wind up being forced to act much more like a man in regards to most issues, especially things like the military, than if she has many more women backing her up.

Right now 19% of the House and 21% of the Senate are women. I just looked it up, and I'll admit that those percentages are slightly higher than I thought they were. And the overwhelming number are Democrats. For what that's worth.

In terms of numbers of men and women?

I am a big fan of all three. The one, Rachel goes way back to her in 2004 Air America days.

Until AM Joy that is.

Sunday I watch msnbc as its the Rev that has the 8am slot

shifts while, let's see...3 men are off vacationing. On the plus side, all 3 women are in the running for their own evening shows (big promotion for Joy when it happens) or they wouldn't be there.

Btw, interesting handoff from Tur to Maddow last night. What is with Tur and her relationship with some of the evening anchors? Anyone know?

I've seen Ari Melber give her a hard time a few times on handoff. She somehow got on his bad side (her Andrea-Mitchellish attitude toward Hillary?), and since he's about 3 times faster mentally (and far more experienced and better educated) he's a bit like a clever cat with a slow mouse.

But tonight during a, to that point, smoothly humorous and professional handoff from Rachel to Tur covering for O'Donnell, Tur suddenly started talking about her awkward handoffs with Melber and said she wasn't sure "how to throw you (Rachel) off your game now." I haven't seen her throw Melber off anything, so why she might want to try it with Rachel I can't imagine. But in any case Rachel handled it like the pro she is, going with the topic but pivoting it right back onto the humorously professional track.